Retail P4 2.4 800mhz w/ht or oem?

[jjlsevil]

I plan to everclock. Is there any difference between the 2? Besides the heatsink.

 

[genro]

well the 3 year warrenty u get with the retail pack helps incase cpu goes bad

 

[FcNukes]

thats right. Warrantty is what matters but if u plan to overclock u'll void it anyways

 

[VIAN]

OEM, i think you still get warranty only that its one year. OEM is better if that is the case.

 

[adams828]

Agreed, if you are going to OC, go OEM. It's cheaper, and you'll want better cooling than the stock hsf anyways.

 

[KDKPSJ]

Originally posted by: FcNukes
thats right. Warrantty is what matters but if u plan to overclock u'll void it anyways

Um.. why do you think OC will void warranty? AMD will be, since using of Artic Silver or other thermal compound would affect warranty (but still, if you clean it well then there's no problem to RMA) But I don't think Intel does matter.

 

[FcNukes]

overclocking is measured by the electromigration on the processor. So it has nothing to do with artic silver or anyhing .
The more u overclock the more the electromigration and in case of damage no one would listen to u.

 

[Wingznut]

At newegg.com, there is a whopping $5 difference between retail and OEM. Considering the longer warranty, the included hs/fan, and the higher resale value... I don't see why you wouldn't go with retail.

And yes... Running the cpu out of spec is against the warranty agreement and will void said warranty.

 

[VIAN]

Because you can get a better HSF and use a better interface than the pad which will stick to the CPU and then you're pretty much F-ed it up. Permanent decisions like that aren't good. And who needs a 3 year warranty anyway. Upgrade every 2 years.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: VIAN
Because you can get a better HSF and use a better interface than the pad which will stick to the CPU and then you're pretty much F-ed it up. Permanent decisions like that aren't good. And who needs a 3 year warranty anyway. Upgrade every 2 years.

My point was that a used retail cpu with the hs/fan will sell for more than a used OEM.

Retail is easily worth $5 more.

 

[1966]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
And yes... Running the cpu out of spec is against the warranty agreement and will void said warranty.

A 2.4ghzcpu is just an underclocked 3ghz cpu anyways.


There's no way for intel to detect if you overclocked your cpu or not.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: 1966
There's no way for intel to detect if you overclocked your cpu or not.

If you fried your cpu by running it out of spec... And Intel (or AMD or whomever) really wanted to find out, they definitely could.

Check this out... When manufacturing a cpu, there are hundreds and hundreds of steps. When a die comes out dead, there are people who's job is to figure out why. And they do. They can trace it down to which exact layer and the exact cause.

Calling the process "amazing" would be an understatement.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: 1966
There's no way for intel to detect if you overclocked your cpu or not.

If you fried your cpu by running it out of spec... And Intel (or AMD or whomever) really wanted to find out, they definitely could.

Check this out... When manufacturing a cpu, there are hundreds and hundreds of steps. When a die comes out dead, there are people who's job is to figure out why. And they do. They can trace it down to which exact layer and the exact cause.

Calling the process "amazing" would be an understatement.

They definately could... but the question is would they? Most likely no... it would cost them more to figure all that crap out than it would to just give you a new one. About the only way I can see them investigating is if a large quantity came back that were from a manufacturer who was suspected of selling overclocked CPU's without stating that they were overclocked and trying to get them replaced under warranty if they failed.

 

[1966]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: 1966
There's no way for intel to detect if you overclocked your cpu or not.

If you fried your cpu by running it out of spec... And Intel (or AMD or whomever) really wanted to find out, they definitely could.

Check this out... When manufacturing a cpu, there are hundreds and hundreds of steps. When a die comes out dead, there are people who's job is to figure out why. And they do. They can trace it down to which exact layer and the exact cause.

Calling the process "amazing" would be an understatement.

That may be true but no amount of tests on a dead cpu will prove without a doubt if it was overclocked or not,might have been heat,might have beeen high vcore might have been other things but there's not a single test that will tell them

Hey this cpu was overclocked !!!

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: 1966
That may be true but no amount of tests on a dead cpu will prove without a doubt if it was overclocked or not,might have been heat,might have beeen high vcore might have been other things but there's not a single test that will tell them

If they were so inclined, they certainly could figure out exactly why the cpu failed.

Like I said, finding out root causes is done every single day... And with things much more complex than running a cpu out of spec.

 

[1966]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: 1966
That may be true but no amount of tests on a dead cpu will prove without a doubt if it was overclocked or not,might have been heat,might have beeen high vcore might have been other things but there's not a single test that will tell them

If they were so inclined, they certainly could figure out exactly why the cpu failed.

Like I said, finding out root causes is done every single day... And with things much more complex than running a cpu out of spec.

Yes that's probably true they can find out complex things,but I still dont think they can tell if a cpu was overclocked of not.



But like Jeff7181 the cost of doing so would be a lot greater than just replacing the cpu so it's pretty much a muted point.



sorry jjlsevil for highjacking your thread,As Wings said and others the price diff of an oem chip Vs warranty & resale vallue is worth a lot more than 5$.

So you're much better off with a retail chip.