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SanDiegoPC

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I ran a thread here last week when I ordered my cooler for the i7 920. I was asking who has the CoGage True Spirit on their rigs and got lots of responses - but nobody had my board (Asus P6T - no deluxe).

I also got a tube of Arctic Silver and the 1366 Thru-Bolt kit, figuring if I had to take the thing apart I may as well make it count. Well, the results are in and yes they count! Idle speeds dropped 15 degrees C and the full load, under testing temp dropped by about 20.

So for 57 bones I made my system more overclockable and cooler. Great investment and I'd highly recommend it to other socket 1366 users. I did NOT lap the CPU nor did I lap the cooler. I just pulled the Intel cooler off, cleaned the chip and installed the new cooler. I'm nicely impressed so far - oh, and yea by the way the huge fan that comes on the cooler is quiet. My rig already has a bunch of 40mm fans blowing air in and out of the case, and the PC sounds the same now as it did before this project.

Pardon me now - I need to reboot and work on getting from 3.6GHz to 4.0

Wish me luck!
 

SanDiegoPC

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Also what I had in mind when I saw the thread title.


Nice, good luck with that.

Btw, how come you mention i7 920 but in your sig it says 960?

LOL musta been pouring a beer down my throat when I made that sig! And I never even noticed that it was wrong until you pointed it out .... thanks for setting me straight.
 

SanDiegoPC

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In other news: The sun will rise tomorrow. :)

yeah Intel coolers suck.

Sorry to bore you :-(

I've been overclocking Intels since the days of the Celeron A 300MHz slot 1 processor. In all these cases, I never needed an aftermarket cooler. So for me, it was a surprise to need it. Even my last OC machine, a Q6600 ran fine, overclocked for years using the Intel HSF that came with the quad-core processor.
 

Marty502

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40mm case fans? I move more air than those when I sneeze, and make less noise. :D
Good to know the new fan is doing it's job, but hell...
I wouldn't care about it's noise if I had those tiny case fans whining next to me. Those suckers are loud!
Just my opinion, of course. :)
 
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wwswimming

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In other news: The sun will rise tomorrow. :)

yeah Intel coolers suck.

why doesn't Intel get a clue ?

AMD coolers are so easy to install. NO CURSING.

i wonder how many sales Intel loses because people prefer the AMD coolers - and how Intel justifies keeping their POS push-pin POS HSF's. i'm sure this has been brought up in internal engineering meetings.
 

jvroig

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i wonder how many sales Intel loses because people prefer the AMD coolers - and how Intel justifies keeping their POS push-pin POS HSF's. i'm sure this has been brought up in internal engineering meetings.
Considering they own the CPU market (was it ~80%?), I'd say probably about three or four people, all enthusiasts, certainly not even a significant part of the bulk of their sales. The rest of the enthusiasts, of course, still bought Intel because i7 beats Phenom II handily, and enthusiasts always want the bigger gun even if just for bragging purposes, and they just bought aftermarket coolers as enthusiasts always do anyway.

I could be wrong since I am not part of this enthusiast crowd, so I may have under- or over-estimated their cling to Intel, but I believe my estimation is close, especially considering Intel's market share, gross margins and sheer profitability.
 

Zargon

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I have no issues with the intel coolers

my e6320 goes to 2.3ghz easily while still running nice and cool on the OEM cooler and some thermal paste from radio shack

and they install easily
 

Cogman

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why doesn't Intel get a clue ?

AMD coolers are so easy to install. NO CURSING.

i wonder how many sales Intel loses because people prefer the AMD coolers - and how Intel justifies keeping their POS push-pin POS HSF's. i'm sure this has been brought up in internal engineering meetings.
Why do they need to get a clue? They own the PC CPU market, why would they invest extra time in getting a better cooler when this one works for 99% of people. and is cheap for them to produce.

Sure you can't OC with it, Did Intel ever want you to OC in the first place?
 

lothar

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why doesn't Intel get a clue ?

AMD coolers are so easy to install. NO CURSING.

i wonder how many sales Intel loses because people prefer the AMD coolers - and how Intel justifies keeping their POS push-pin POS HSF's. i'm sure this has been brought up in internal engineering meetings.

About the same amount McDonald's loses to people who choose to buy a Starbucks coffee over a McDonald's one only because they think the mermaid on the cup is all hip.
 

amenx

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Sorry to bore you :-(

I've been overclocking Intels since the days of the Celeron A 300MHz slot 1 processor. In all these cases, I never needed an aftermarket cooler. So for me, it was a surprise to need it. Even my last OC machine, a Q6600 ran fine, overclocked for years using the Intel HSF that came with the quad-core processor.
The original C2D coolers with the copper cores were fine. I could get nearly a 50% OC on a e6400 (2.13 > 3ghz) and ran nice and cool. The 45nm coolers sucked though.
 

Scotteq

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OP - Grats on the machine :cool:

About the same amount McDonald's loses to people who choose to buy a Starbucks coffee over a McDonald's one only because they think the mermaid on the cup is all hip.


I don't know about 'hip"... But she sure has a nicer rack than Ronald... D:
 

nyker96

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why doesn't Intel get a clue ?

AMD coolers are so easy to install. NO CURSING.

i wonder how many sales Intel loses because people prefer the AMD coolers - and how Intel justifies keeping their POS push-pin POS HSF's. i'm sure this has been brought up in internal engineering meetings.

that's why there's a market for bolt-thru kits. I hate the push pins, once I knocked the case around by a bit and the cooler fell out. the push pins are just the worst mounting system ever deviced. I can see intel stock coolers use it but with the weight of after market coolers, I cannot believe some of those a.m. company uses this system. yes AMD is better here, but intel wins on cpu end.
 

SanDiegoPC

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So is that 3.8 stable or just another number like the CPU?

It's very stable. The ONLY issue I have, is OUtlook 2003 running in the 64-bit Windows 7 environment. And I think I just fixed that, by getting rid of the PDF add-on that Acrobat Pro insists on attaching itself to Office applications.

After Prime 95 runs for an hour or so, CoreTemp reports temps in the high 70's and sometimes it will reach 80*C. But none of my apps push it that hard, my normal operating temp even doing image processing is under 60.

So yea it's very stable.