Restrictions As To Whom Can Vote....

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  1. Rainsford

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    So if I understand this idea correctly, people shouldn't be allowed to vote if they even COULD be voting for personal gain? I'm sure both of the people who could still vote would like how short the lines at the polls are, but that sounds like a pretty silly idea to me.
     
  2. feralkid

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    Of course we all know you think it was bad, nonetheless.


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  3. Rainsford

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    Guaranteeing we have a government tailored to a non-representative group of people sounds like something we should actively try to avoid. If everyone was a middle class white guy, your plan might work (although it would be unnecessary). But if we restrict the vote that way, the inconvenient poor people, brown people and women won't suddenly go away...they'll just have no voice in government. So assuming your idea of who doesn't need government help is correct, your plan will ensure that it's the ONLY group that doesn't need help.
     
  4. nehalem256

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    I just said there is no problem with women voting in general.

    The problem is with the women who lack a man voting themselves government swag.

    I would say my plan sounds a lot better than having the government cater to leaches.

    And as I clearly stated there is no reason there is an inherent problem with women are brown people voting. It is just that those groups tend to have a disproportionate number of people who want government swag.
     
  5. zsdersw

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    Your "plan" sounds like another country.. not the US.
     
  6. NTMBK

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    You are a thoroughly unpleasant human being, and I hope that you are aware of that.
     
  7. feralkid

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    Your honor, the prosecution rests.
     
  8. Rainsford

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    Why are the only two options catering exclusively to people who need/use government assistance or exclusively to financially well off people? The whole point of having a democracy is to get a government that "caters" to everyone and we get a system that works for everyone, not just your favorite group. Because even if you're a rich white guy, it benefits you to live in a society where rich white guys aren't the only ones doing OK.
     
  9. nehalem256

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    You cannot have a government that caters to everyone. Look at those in prison. Clearly they are not being catered too.

    And you completely missed the point of what I was saying. Did you miss for example this

    As well as all my mentions that the white and male is irrelevant. It is just that statistically speaking white and male will get you a group that is much more middle class.

    EDIT: And in addition

    Catering to the lowest elements of society leads to the eventual collapse of that society. In the long run catering to the lowest elements of society is good for no one.
     
  10. zsdersw

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    No, but you can have a government that caters to those who choose to vote. The government doesn't get to decide which law-abiding adult citizens it will cater to, those who vote make that decision.
     
  11. Pr0d1gy

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    Thus, by simple logic, you view poor people as being lower than criminals. Much like you view women as lower than men. Shocking, to nobody.

    Why haven't you killed yourself yet? Do everyone a favor.
     
  12. nehalem256

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    And why is it legal to pop out bastard children you cannot feed and demand government swag. But illegal to go into a bank and demand them to hand over all their money.

    What is the difference? Other than you probably get less money from robbing the bank.
     
  13. Atreus21

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    If it was up to me no one below the age of 40 would be allowed to vote.
     
  14. zsdersw

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    Everyone is free to demand that, but there is no obligation to meet those demands.

    You're free to demand all of the bank's money as long as you don't threaten violence.
     
  15. zsdersw

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    Thankfully, it is not up to you.
     
  16. nehalem256

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    Why does the idea of even discussing whether it is good for society to have everyone vote scare you so much?
     
  17. nehalem256

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    So demanding money or you will let or bastard child, that you CHOOSE to have, die doesn't sound like threatening violence to you?
     
  18. fskimospy

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    That's because your ideas are childish, naive, and part of a larger pathological hatred of women.

    Nice to chat again! How's your dating life going?
     
  19. Atreus21

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    Too bad. I'd have this placed whipped into shape in no time.
     
  20. zsdersw

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    It's not scary at all. It is, however, incredibly stupid.
     
  21. zsdersw

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    Nope.
     
  22. zsdersw

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    Mussolini and Hitler are among those who believed that, too.
     
  23. nehalem256

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    So proposing solutions that keep women and children out of poverty is "hating" them now...

    Great! Thanks for asking.
     
  24. dank69

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    Because you are discussing putting limits on democracy. That should scare you.
     
  25. yllus

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    The funny thing is, the problems the United States faces today are exclusively due to people over the age of 40 having almost absolute control of government.

    How many young people vote themselves into going overseas to fight wars?

    How many young people make enough money to pay for lobbyists?

    How many young people pull down Medicare and Social Security?

    The society you live in is completely biased against the young - yet they're the scapegoat. Amazing.