Respected Techheads: Help me decide on a laptop

DigDug

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Background:

  • I am being given a $2k tech bonus. I want to get a new computer as I currently only have an X series Thinkpad (X31).

  • I am very, very interested in buying one of them widescreen laptops - the look so perfect for the double-document editing that I'm often doing.

  • I am very loyal to IBM, but I know nothing about the z60 that's come out. It seems that its graphics card isn't up to par, but then again I'm not sure. I want to play MAME games, N64 emulators and the like. Will the z60's card suffice?

  • What seems to be the best deal out there? I'd never buy a Dell because of quality issues. I am a real freak for sturdy technology and IBM, when I last bought a laptop, was the clear winner on the best made laptops. Is this still the case?

Do you guys have any suggestions as to which one I should buy?
 

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Kind of sounds like you are already 80% sure you are going with an IBM;) I would consider others such as Acer and Gateway just for good measure.
 

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I've worked on quite a few Acer's and was quite pleased with the solid feeling they all had. Nice and tight feeling all the way around. Personally, when it comes to me buying another laptop, I will be buying an Acer. Not only did they all feel well built, but they are very sleek.

The Gateway I owned was also very solid and I never had trouble with it.
 

ActuaryTm

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$2,000 may be a bit tight of a budgetary fit. Depends on the model chosen, and the discount received.

Build quality is typically high on ThinkPads, though any manufacturer is prone to component failure/malfunction.

You might consider posting a bit more information regarding what work related duties you'll be performing (that is, unless you play games as your job function). Weight requirements would help as well.

Also consider a number of models listed here, as I've been reading a number of excellent reviews on Asus widescreen lines.
 

DigDug

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Thanks for all the suggestions. This Acer Travelmate 8100 looks great. The reviews are all superlative. I'm curious, ActuaryTim to hear what you know about Asus laptops and perhaps even have a suggestion or two on some lappies I should look at.

My job functions don't require heavy graphics work. I an vey enamored with the widescreen laptops because I am an attorney and am constantly comparing documents and editing multiple ones. A widescreen would give me the ability to have two documents up and side-by-side.

Other programs I used recreationally (I'm into photography and music composition) are: Photoshop Elements, Adobe Photoshop, Reason, Cubase and the like.

Lastly, I want to be able to play some cool games, but I'm not a "gamer". I actually want to be able to play all the classics on MAME and run some nintendo emulators. It is for that reason that I want to make sure the graphics card in the lappy I get, will be sufficient (and doesn't necessarily need to be the best.

I don't mind spend over $2k, but if I can have a nice computer for less, that would be great.

6.6 to 7 pounds would be okay - I don't take my laptop around as much as I used to, and therefore a desktop-replacement would be actually be a good thing.

NOTE: one thing I do not like, and what i've seen on some laptops, is that glossy plastic front on the LCD screen. It provides alot of glare and I hate it. Know what I'm talking about?
 

Horus

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You can easily buy a 17" Toshiba notebook w/ an X700 video card for 2000 bucks. They are gorgeous, very reliable notebooks.
 

DaiShan

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If this is used as a desktop replacement I guess it's ok to go with a larger screen, but if you travel you will regret this, as they are heavy, and bulky, and they generally do not have great battery life.
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: DigDug
I'm curious, ActuaryTim to hear what you know about Asus laptops and perhaps even have a suggestion or two on some lappies I should look at.
First, read here as there is a wealth of unbiased information regarding Asus mobile lines (including an entire review section).

Have personally toyed with the W2V, and a number of the Z- models. For my particular uses, none have fit the bill, but they are all certainly excellent machines. As mentioned above, the Asus section of Notebookforums is replete with experience from end-users and staff representatives alike.

You could also research the Acer lines mentioned in other posts.
My job functions don't require heavy graphics work. I an vey enamored with the widescreen laptops because I am an attorney and am constantly comparing documents and editing multiple ones. A widescreen would give me the ability to have two documents up and side-by-side.
Due to activities mentioned above, I would likely suggest one of the higher resolution displays, if your eyes can manage such. If you're not familiar with the typical widescreen resolutions, you may want to take a trip to a local retail store to examine the various choices. Depending on the actual size of the display (14", 15", 17", etc), would personally look into WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) or WUXGA (1920 x 1200).
NOTE: one thing I do not like, and what i've seen on some laptops, is that glossy plastic front on the LCD screen. It provides alot of glare and I hate it. Know what I'm talking about?
Most of the higher-end mobile manufacturer's offer choices of display types for this very reason.
 

sniperruff

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friend has an acer from last year. the laptop feels good and solid, and the screen looks crisp. recommended.
 

Leper Messiah

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my bro's ABS is pretty nice, not hugey heavy and its got a 6600GT go. For $2K, you could prolly get one with like a 1.8GHz dothan and a 80GB HDD.
 

UNCjigga

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If you have a $2k budget, I would seriously consider a Sony Vaio. Sony makes great laptops that are almost always thinner/lighter than the competition, yet they still use excellent Geforce Go graphics chips. IBM/Lenovo unfortunately no longer use discrete graphics with some of their newest, thin/light widescreen models--I believe only the larger Z-series with the 15.4" screen has discrete graphics but its the old ATI X600 chip.

My recommendation: Sony VAIO SZ series with Core Duo, GeForce Go 7400, 13.3" widescreen w/XBRITE Hicolor and well under 5 pounds with up to 6 hours of runtime on a standard (NOT the upgraded) battery.

I've heard that the SZ has a hybrid graphics subsystem--using the integrated Intel GMA when on battery power and only powering on the Geforce chip when decoding video or 3D gaming on AC power.

Sony VAIO VGN-SZ140 FTW
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
If you have a $2k budget, I would seriously consider a Sony Vaio.
There are only three words I can suggest when considering purchasing a Sony Vaio:
  • NO. NO. NO.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
If you have a $2k budget, I would seriously consider a Sony Vaio.
There are only three words I can suggest when considering purchasing a Sony Vaio:
  • NO. NO. NO.
Which models do you have experience with? I know plenty of people with TX and S series VAIOs and they absolutely love them. I *have* heard bad things about a few store-bought 'consumer' level vaio laptops though.


 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Which models do you have experience with? I know plenty of people with TX and S series VAIOs and they absolutely love them. I *have* heard bad things about a few store-bought 'consumer' level vaio laptops though.
For the most part (though there are a few choice exceptions), Vaio hardware is not terrible. In fact, I can without a doubt say the displays are some of the nicer choices on the market. Of course, aesthetically the machines are quite nice as well.

The chief reason reason I tend to now sway others away from choosing a Vaio is Sony's truly awful service. Not so much as far as technical support is concerned mind you, as most here are savvy enough to deal with minor technical inconviencies (and even component failure of the interchangable type, be it a hard drive, proccessor, etc). Warranty support however is an entirely other matter.

I cannot fault a manufacturer all that much when components (integrated or discete, electronic or mechanical) fail - it happens unfortunately across all manufacturers. The difference between most other manufacturers and Sony lies in the likelihood of Sony standing behind their product. In too large of a percentage of cases, they do not. I've personally had quite a number of Vaios (over the course of a six year period), beginning with the F series, and progressing forward through the FXA series, the G series, the S series, and early T series. Dealing with Sony on hardware failures was (to be quite honest) an absolute nightmare on more than a single occasion, and several times I progressed through the proper channels on support issues as high up as a few VPs. The last in a series of unresolved issues (a hinge on an S series that simply snapped in two, which the representative I initially reported the issue to said "Oh, we've had that happen on some of them lately.") went as high as a regional VP of Operations. Over $350 (plus shipping) for a single hinge seemed a bit too steep of an out-of-pocket repair cost for a machine still under the initial warranty, and despite my calmest, most professional demeanor (and explaining that this was an opportunity for Sony to keep me as a customer, rather than lose me, my future purchases, and the future purchases of all those to whom I recommend products), Sony declined to service the machine without payment. His only solace was, "Sorry. Businesses can't afford to repair all things that break." For the price point Sony mobile machines generally keep, this is quite simply an unacceptable practice.

Had it been a single instance, I could have likely foregone the conclusion I reached regarding warranty service and support. However, it was not an isolated case I dealt with, and later found it was a faily common theme reported by other Sony end-users. At that point, one has no other recourse than to vote with one's wallet, and the wallets of others he/she has influence over. What I do recommend to people is that if they are absolutely set on a Vaio purchase, do NOT do so without the protection of a third-party extended warranty of some kind.

In DigDug's case, I would recommend the ThinkPad far above any Vaios. The other machines mentioned are also excellent choices, and should be researched prior to purchase. You might also consider the NP5720 as it falls into your price range, offers both the video and display options mentioned above, and meets your weight requirement.

In the end, much of your choice is going to be personal preference of course, and should be the make and model that best suits your needs and budget.

Good luck.