Researchers Prove Bible Grossly Mistranslated

[Jhhnn]

The Quran is only one from author and still 100% original Arabic unchanged.

Incorrect. The Quran is the writings of those who followed Mohammed, their version of what he said, just like the New Testament. It's never been shown that he ever wrote down anything.

As you say, it still exists in the original arabic, and many other languages as well. It's probably much closer to the original text than the New Testament, translated from Greek to Latin to whatever with the original texts no longer extant...

As to the veracity of the new idea of how to translate ancient Hebrew, who knows? Medicine didn't realize that ulcers were caused by bacteria until recently...

 

[MovingTarget]

Translations of the Bible are largely subjective, as they are each done within a specific cultural and linguistic context. That does not mean that a particular translation is "false". Many have had to be rewritten/retranslated since the discovery and subsequent analysis of the Dead Sea scrolls. New understandings do develop over time as well, such as the advent of the use of redactionary criticism (see the Q-source hypothesis) that changes our understanding of the text in relation to itself. Translation of any text isn't an exact science. Nothing to see here.

 

[Artista]

I think they got this from Dan Brown a Biblical expert. (as everything he wrote is a 100% fact):whiste:

 

[Acanthus]

Incorrect. The Quran is the writings of those who followed Mohammed, their version of what he said, just like the New Testament. It's never been shown that he ever wrote down anything.

As you say, it still exists in the original arabic, and many other languages as well. It's probably much closer to the original text than the New Testament, translated from Greek to Latin to whatever with the original texts no longer extant...

As to the veracity of the new idea of how to translate ancient Hebrew, who knows? Medicine didn't realize that ulcers were caused by bacteria until recently...

Muhammad did write many of the passages in the Koran. He also decreed that they could not be changed as they were the direct word of god.

 

[DominionSeraph]

"Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of great spiritual power. We know this because they are capable of being invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them."

 

[FerrelGeek]

Just did a quick check to refresh my memory. The Septuagint, the translation of the OT Hebrew into Greek, was written before 132 BC. So, are these guys claiming they have a better understanding of ancient Hebrew than the scholars did over 2000 years ago? I find that hard to believe.

 

[Fern]

Seriously?

One letter equals a "word", and one word equals a "sentence"?

Check out my 'chapter' about this, I write it like this - B.S.

Fern

 

[classy]

You don't have to believe the bible, but what it says in its current form is undeniable. The original manuscripts have been translated dozens of times and everytime they have been translated almost the same. Some slightly different translations usually on certain words. It may be fake, but its tranlslation has been proven to be accurate.

 

[EagleKeeper]

How do you prove something is accurate that happened 4000+ years ago.

All it means is that everyone is operating from a common stating procedure/user manual

This is indicting that the actual stating procedure may be in itself flawed.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Seriously?

One letter equals a "word", and one word equals a "sentence"?

Check out my 'chapter' about this, I write it like this - B.S.

Fern

A letter does not have to be a letter in the Western sense.
What is to us a letter, is actually a symbol. It is how we interpret it.

Look at the Aztec/Egyptian/Mayan cultures. current East Asian cultures. They use a symbol all the time for a word. Why does the ancient Hebrew have to conform to the Western notions of writing?

 

[Macamus Prime]

I read somewhere that the Bible was originally a big book of dick jokes.

 

[DirkGently1]

I've known that and if it were translated properly, there wouldn't be so many atheists. A lot of atheists use mistranslations to try to prove that God doesn't exist.

Can't prove a negative. And in this case, don't need to!

Anybody else try to read any of that? (beside PC Surgeon)?

Their translation needs a translation. It looks awfully close to jibberish.

Fern

Unlike the original...?

obviously you dont know anything about faith. The devil put this doubt on the planet!

 

[Fern]

A letter does not have to be a letter in the Western sense.
What is to us a letter, is actually a symbol. It is how we interpret it.

Look at the Aztec/Egyptian/Mayan cultures. current East Asian cultures. They use a symbol all the time for a word. Why does the ancient Hebrew have to conform to the Western notions of writing?

Essentially, and this is a bit simplistic, they are saying Hebew letters are pictographs.

Now, either Hebrew letters in the original text are completely and utter different from any Hebrew anybody else knows or they are full of you-know-what.

Pictographs don't morph into phonetic letters etc.

Chinese has been around forever, and it hasn't morphed like that. Nothing has.

Ain't buying it. At least not on anything I've seen so far.

Fern

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What a bunch of horseshit! Who are these people? Then I read the Bios....lulz. But hey...Danielle is kinda hot imo.

 

[Blackjack200]

I read somewhere that the Bible was originally a big book of dick jokes.

Genesis 1:1 - Two men were peeing off the side of a bridge. The first one whistled and turned to his friend saying "the water's cold today". Without missing a beat his friend responded "yep, deep too".

 

[-Slacker-]

How can such a large a text be mistranslated from words to letters and still have grammatical and semantic coherence?

Poe's law.


Don't even bother...

 

[Macamus Prime]

Genesis 1:1 - Two men were peeing off the side of a bridge. The first one whistled and turned to his friend saying "the water's cold today". Without missing a beat his friend responded "yep, deep too".

Excellent follow up, thank you sir.

 

[PokerGuy]

Yeah, that "research" is believable. More so than the research by thousands of actual scholars for a thousand years. Yep, sure thing.

 

[child of wonder]

 

[werepossum]

Essentially, and this is a bit simplistic, they are saying Hebew letters are pictographs.

Now, either Hebrew letters in the original text are completely and utter different from any Hebrew anybody else knows or they are full of you-know-what.

Pictographs don't morph into phonetic letters etc.

Chinese has been around forever, and it hasn't morphed like that. Nothing has.

Ain't buying it. At least not on anything I've seen so far.

Fern

This. This "project" is merely another new age feel good exercise in willful stupidity.

EDIT: I have heard some people make some pretty good cases for individual errors. But that was based on the proper interpretation of ancient Hebrew, which vowels should be inserted and what words meant at the time of writing versus what they meant at the time of translation. Anyone who claims to have "discovered" that ancient Hebrew is actually some sort of secret code has zero credibility.

 

[WHAMPOM]

How can they retranslate an edited document? I know for a fact that the original Hebrew texts (the ancient dug up documents and grave marker inscriptions) mention "GODS" while newer texts are strictly monotheist.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Essentially, and this is a bit simplistic, they are saying Hebew letters are pictographs.

Now, either Hebrew letters in the original text are completely and utter different from any Hebrew anybody else knows or they are full of you-know-what.

Pictographs don't morph into phonetic letters etc.

Chinese has been around forever, and it hasn't morphed like that. Nothing has.

Ain't buying it. At least not on anything I've seen so far.

Fern

Right, Egyptian hieroglyphics did not develop into phonetic spelling. And Neither Did The Mayan. Right!

 

[Fern]

Right, Egyptian hieroglyphics did not develop into phonetic spelling. And Neither Did The Mayan. Right!

Right.

Link us up to some text where hieroglyphics are used as letters etc.

Fern

 

[DrPizza]

"Supreme ones" sounds rather iffy as "God".

The Old Testament alludes to there being the existence of other Gods, not just one. Historically, this makes sense. Put yourself in the shoes (or whatever they wore, if anything) of someone living at the time that the Old Testament was written. You had a God of this, a God of that. Many phenomena had Gods attributed to them. It would be a pretty hard sell to say "hey! There's only one God." Instead, to many people, it was introduced as "Hey, here's another God." "That's cool, we could always use another one." "But, this one is the most powerful of them all. You have to worship him first and put him in front of the other ones, else he'll spank you."

If you approach potential new converts with the claim that "hey, all 100 of your Gods are fairy tales, there's actually only one God." Well, quite obviously, we see how well that approach works. It doesn't. They'll consider that you're an idiot, because they have faith in the existence of all those other Gods. (Sorry, that's your argument, Ape. Unfortunately, your argument applies equally to all the other Gods that have ever "existed.")

 

[sandorski]

The Old Testament alludes to there being the existence of other Gods, not just one. Historically, this makes sense. Put yourself in the shoes (or whatever they wore, if anything) of someone living at the time that the Old Testament was written. You had a God of this, a God of that. Many phenomena had Gods attributed to them. It would be a pretty hard sell to say "hey! There's only one God." Instead, to many people, it was introduced as "Hey, here's another God." "That's cool, we could always use another one." "But, this one is the most powerful of them all. You have to worship him first and put him in front of the other ones, else he'll spank you."

I'm not sure if this Translation is correct, but as you say the Old Testament does hint at there being other Gods. What you say makes perfect sense, but that certainly brings into question the current Belief and Bible used by most(of those who use the Bible) in this day and age. The Bible, as we have today, has certainly emphasized that there is only 1 God and avoids the 1 God being superior to all other Gods.