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Researcher Says Worms May Help Inflammatory Bowel Disease (including Crohn's)

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More evidence our hyper-cleanliness is causing our body to attack itself with autoimmune disorders.

Researcher Says Worms May Help Bowel Disease
AP
EAST LANSING, Mich. (June 9) - The upside of Linda Mansfield's research is that it may lead to a new treatment for inflammatory bowel disease. The downside is that it would involve swallowing worm eggs. Mansfield is a professor of microbiology at Michigan State University who specializes in the study of parasites.

She's also one of several researchers around the country looking at the use of threadlike intestinal parasites called whipworms to treat the disease, which can cause diarrhea, painful cramps and even intestinal bleeding.

"It's extremely debilitating," Mansfield told the Lansing State Journal for a story Friday. "People talk about having 256 bouts of diarrhea a year when they have this disease. It gets to the level where some of them are not able to work."

Inflammatory bowel disease, the most common forms of which are Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis, is a condition that is virtually unknown in the developing world. But it is becoming increasingly common in industrialized countries.

Researchers have put forward several explanations for that, among them diets high in fat and refined foods. But another possible cause, Mansfield said, is increasing levels of hygiene.

Portions of the immune system actually require periodic infections in order to develop properly. Some exposure to dirt, bacteria and even worms can be beneficial.

"By living in an ultra-clean environment," Mansfield said, "we're removing some of the things that helped to educate our immune system."


Mansfield said it's possible that the human immune system developed in a way that's reliant, to some degree, on the presence of parasitic worms.

She wasn't the first to hit on that idea. A research team at the University of Iowa already has tried treating human patients with a whipworm egg and Gatorade cocktail. Their results were promising.

David Elliott was a member of that team.

"There are probably individuals in the population who, back when worms were prevalent, were the healthiest because their immune systems could fight off all sorts of things," he said. "When worms are removed, their immune systems become unbridled, and they move on to develop disease."

Mansfield came to the topic from an animal angle.

More than a decade ago, she began studying whipworm infections in pigs, initially trying to develop a vaccine against the parasites.

But one of the things she noticed along the way was that whipworm infections produced a strong anti-inflammatory immune response.

When given to patients with inflammatory bowel disease, the worms can help to counteract the inflammation and "actually reset the immune system to be in better balance," Mansfield said.

Further, pig whipworms are relatively safe. Most people will expel them in a matter of weeks and, if that doesn't happen, they can be eliminated with anti-worm drugs.

That's promising, if a little unpleasant, for people like Linda Rockey.

The Mason woman has suffered from Crohn's disease for more than 30 years. Having tried most conventional treatments, she said she's "right at the end of the rope."

If she had no other alternatives, she said, "if they said. `This is it. You eat these worms,' I would do it. At some point, you're willing to try anything."

The whipworm treatment still needs to undergo further testing before it can be approved by the FDA.
 
- I got worms!
- I beg your pardon?
- That's what we're gonna call it. I got worms! We're gonna specialize in selling worm farms. You know, like ant farms.
 
I think a lot of that goes into the DUH column.

There are other solutions to diseases of the bowels. One common solution is an enima, but instead of using water, you use someone else's excrement. Doesn't sound pleasant at all.
 
Well, I've been suffering with Crohn's Disease for close to 17 years and I think I'll pass on a "whipworm egg and Gatorade cocktail." Though harmful with long term use, I'll opt for my Prednisone. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: dullard
One common solution is an enima, but instead of using water, you use someone else's excrement. Doesn't sound pleasant at all.
What what what what what what what?
 
I was thinking about this (hygene) the other day in relation to Vitamin B12. It's a nutrient you can only get from animal sources (nowadays), but is actually made in our own bodies by bacteria, as well as in the bodies of other animals by bacteria. Unfortunately in our bodies the bacteria who make it live past the digestive system where we could actually absorb it, so we can never make use of our own B12. Nowadays people have to eat animal products to get it (meat, dairy, eggs). I was wondering how various cultures who were vegan by choice or circumstance throughout history could have survived without any B12, and it turned out after some research and a bit of common sense that these people would have gotten it through food and drink contaminated with animal (or their own) feces, as well as dirt and rotten food where the bacteria who make B12 reside. Just offering it as another situation where an overly hygenic modern lifestyle can lead to health problems nobody might have even considered. The solution, of course, is to eat meat. I'm not complaining.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
I was thinking about this (hygene) the other day in relation to Vitamin B12. It's a nutrient you can only get from animal sources (nowadays), but is actually made in our own bodies by bacteria, as well as in the bodies of other animals by bacteria. Unfortunately in our bodies the bacteria who make it live past the digestive system where we could actually absorb it, so we can never make use of our own B12. Nowadays people have to eat animal products to get it (meat, dairy, eggs). I was wondering how various cultures who were vegan by choice or circumstance throughout history could have survived without any B12, and it turned out after some research and a bit of common sense that these people would have gotten it through food and drink contaminated with animal (or their own) feces, as well as dirt and rotten food where the bacteria who make B12 reside. Just offering it as another situation where an overly hygenic modern lifestyle can lead to health problems nobody might have even considered. The solution, of course, is to eat meat. I'm not complaining.
Feces water? No thanks, I'll just eat a b-vitamin. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: kogase
I was thinking about this (hygene) the other day in relation to Vitamin B12. It's a nutrient you can only get from animal sources (nowadays), but is actually made in our own bodies by bacteria, as well as in the bodies of other animals by bacteria. Unfortunately in our bodies the bacteria who make it live past the digestive system where we could actually absorb it, so we can never make use of our own B12. Nowadays people have to eat animal products to get it (meat, dairy, eggs). I was wondering how various cultures who were vegan by choice or circumstance throughout history could have survived without any B12, and it turned out after some research and a bit of common sense that these people would have gotten it through food and drink contaminated with animal (or their own) feces, as well as dirt and rotten food where the bacteria who make B12 reside. Just offering it as another situation where an overly hygenic modern lifestyle can lead to health problems nobody might have even considered. The solution, of course, is to eat meat. I'm not complaining.
Feces water? No thanks, I'll just eat a b-vitamin. :laugh:

If you want to make use of the synthetic solution, you can. It's probably fine. I prefer to get as much of my nutrients as possible from food, though.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Which is why I do my part and put as many pennies in my ass so you all can touch my ass pennies.

LMAO!

Upright Citizens Brigade FTW!

😉
I've been sticking $30 in pennies up my ass for the past 11 years. That's 3,000 pennies a day; 21,000 pennies a week; 1,092,000 pennies a year. To date that's 12,012,000 pennies, 8 times the population of Nebraska. Those pennies were in my ass! You think you're better than me? Oh, you're not better than me.

You handle my ass pennies everyday.

You pick up my ass pennies for good luck.

You throw my ass pennies in fountains and make wishes on them.

You give my ass pennies to your little daughter to buy gumballs with.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: kogase
I was thinking about this (hygene) the other day in relation to Vitamin B12. It's a nutrient you can only get from animal sources (nowadays), but is actually made in our own bodies by bacteria, as well as in the bodies of other animals by bacteria. Unfortunately in our bodies the bacteria who make it live past the digestive system where we could actually absorb it, so we can never make use of our own B12. Nowadays people have to eat animal products to get it (meat, dairy, eggs). I was wondering how various cultures who were vegan by choice or circumstance throughout history could have survived without any B12, and it turned out after some research and a bit of common sense that these people would have gotten it through food and drink contaminated with animal (or their own) feces, as well as dirt and rotten food where the bacteria who make B12 reside. Just offering it as another situation where an overly hygenic modern lifestyle can lead to health problems nobody might have even considered. The solution, of course, is to eat meat. I'm not complaining.
Feces water? No thanks, I'll just eat a b-vitamin. :laugh:

If you want to make use of the synthetic solution, you can. It's probably fine. I prefer to get as much of my nutrients as possible from food, though.
Getting enough essential nutrients from food is ideal, but often difficult.

I eat pretty good, but still suplement with vitamins. Quality vitamins are key though, the cheap ones might as well be nothing as they don't really absorb into the body.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Which is why I do my part and put as many pennies in my ass so you all can touch my ass pennies.

LMAO!

Upright Citizens Brigade FTW!

😉
I've been sticking $30 in pennies up my ass for the past 11 years. That's 3,000 pennies a day; 21,000 pennies a week; 1,092,000 pennies a year. To date that's 12,012,000 pennies, 8 times the population of Nebraska. Those pennies were in my ass! You think you're better than me? Oh, you're not better than me.

You handle my ass pennies everyday.

You pick up my ass pennies for good luck.

You throw my ass pennies in fountains and make wishes on them.

You give my ass pennies to your little daughter to buy gumballs with.
who the hell uses pennies anymore? there's nothing that costs less then a dime today as far as i know. so no problem.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Getting enough essential nutrients from food is ideal, but often difficult.

I eat pretty good, but still suplement with vitamins. Quality vitamins are key though, the cheap ones might as well be nothing as they don't really absorb into the body.

From what I know it's quite easy to get all the vitamins you need as long as you avoid eating a ton of processed foods. Eat some yogurt, fish/lean meat, nuts, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, etc. and you'll get everything you need. If you eat fast food (white bread, beef, token amounts of lettuce and tomato, cheap cheese) there will, of course, be problems. But... it's easier than people think, what most people find hard is giving up all the junk food they are so used to.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Getting enough essential nutrients from food is ideal, but often difficult.

I eat pretty good, but still suplement with vitamins. Quality vitamins are key though, the cheap ones might as well be nothing as they don't really absorb into the body.

From what I know it's quite easy to get all the vitamins you need as long as you avoid eating a ton of processed foods. Eat some yogurt, fish/lean meat, nuts, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, etc. and you'll get everything you need. If you eat fast food (white bread, beef, token amounts of lettuce and tomato, cheap cheese) there will, of course, be problems. But... it's easier than people think, what most people find hard is giving up all the junk food they are so used to.
The ones I really care about are lecithin,the omega 3's and assorted anti-oxidants, which I guess are not so much essential, but quite good to have.

I don't like liver, only eat salmon a few times a month and don't drink enough green tea or red wine.
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Getting enough essential nutrients from food is ideal, but often difficult.

I eat pretty good, but still suplement with vitamins. Quality vitamins are key though, the cheap ones might as well be nothing as they don't really absorb into the body.

From what I know it's quite easy to get all the vitamins you need as long as you avoid eating a ton of processed foods. Eat some yogurt, fish/lean meat, nuts, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, etc. and you'll get everything you need. If you eat fast food (white bread, beef, token amounts of lettuce and tomato, cheap cheese) there will, of course, be problems. But... it's easier than people think, what most people find hard is giving up all the junk food they are so used to.
The ones I really care about are lecithin,the omega 3's and assorted anti-oxidants, which I guess are not so much essential, but quite good to have.

I don't like liver, only eat salmon a few times a month and don't drink enough green tea or red wine.

Peanuts and fruit are a good source of antioxidants. Peanuts are also a good source of unsaturated fat. Not only that, but peanuts contain resveratrol, the substance found in red wine that is so good for you. Dry roasted peanuts or "natural" (just peanuts) peanut butter is fine. A couple of handfuls a day is enough to get what you need. As far as the omega-3, that is a problem. I have fish oil pills, as I don't eat fish very often either. I feel more comfortable with these supplements because they are not synthetic... still, if you want a good source of omega-3 try to find some grass-fed beef. American beef cows tend to be very unhealthy and packed with saturated and omega-6 fats because they are fed on an unnatural (for a cow) diet of corn and soybeans.

Edit: Also, not sure why you're concerned about lecithin. Your body produces all that you need, plus you can eat eggs if you want some.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Getting enough essential nutrients from food is ideal, but often difficult.

I eat pretty good, but still suplement with vitamins. Quality vitamins are key though, the cheap ones might as well be nothing as they don't really absorb into the body.

From what I know it's quite easy to get all the vitamins you need as long as you avoid eating a ton of processed foods. Eat some yogurt, fish/lean meat, nuts, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, etc. and you'll get everything you need. If you eat fast food (white bread, beef, token amounts of lettuce and tomato, cheap cheese) there will, of course, be problems. But... it's easier than people think, what most people find hard is giving up all the junk food they are so used to.
The ones I really care about are lecithin,the omega 3's and assorted anti-oxidants, which I guess are not so much essential, but quite good to have.

I don't like liver, only eat salmon a few times a month and don't drink enough green tea or red wine.

Peanuts and fruit are a good source of antioxidants. Peanuts are also a good source of unsaturated fat.
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Interesting, I might pick me up some peanuts from the store today.

Edit: Also, not sure why you're concerned about lecithin. Your body produces all that you need, plus you can eat eggs if you want some.
While I have many good habits, I have a few bad ones and I want to protect my brain as much as possible. Specifically I have one that affects the memory and I feel I need all the choline I can get. 😎:laugh:
The lecethin is derived from nautral sources(in this case soy beans), like most of the nutrients I take; as I said quality is key, so it's fine in my book.
 
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