Requiem for a Dream Question ------Spoiler-

DAM

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Ok, there are a couple of things that I was not able to understand, first off:

What was #3?


When Sarah sees Pappy come in to her house, what was the meaning of that? or was there even a meaning or was she just tripping?


Why does Tyrone throw up in the jail? was it just the food or are those symptons of withdrawl from the drugs?




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d0ofy

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Tyrone is going through withdrawl. I think he gets it the lightest of everyone.

I don't remember the #3 thing. Lemme watch it again.
 

eakers

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i dont understand why they go to jail: you cant go to jail if you dont have drugs on you or are on them right?

violation of parole for tyrone?

and i dont know #1.

*kat. <-- scarred for life from requiem
 

DAM

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eak: actually thats a good point, why did they get arrested? hmm, ohh well, still amazing movie.






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They got arrested because they ended up in a conservative area that didn't like blackpeople/drugs .. why else would they throw him in jail and not treat his arm? That's f-ing sadist.
 

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seriously. i can SORTA see why they'd jail a black person for being is such &quot;hick&quot; country, but i can't figure out why they didn't treat his arm..i mean, it didn't make sense.
 

cherrytwist

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#3 isn't in the movie. I've wondered the same thing the first time I saw the film.

In the version with commentary (yes, I'm a geek) D. Aronofsky mentions that Tappy Tibbons is his creation (he's not in the novel) and that #3 is ONLY revealed on the official website. I've been there a couple of times in search of it, but it's puzzle-like and I don't have the patience.

edit: spelling error
 

noninterleaved

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Harry DID shoot up on the way to Florida, I would assume that there was more drugs on them.

I am not sure if you can be arrested simply for being high... It is probably a state law though, so who knows where they were. If they were in the south, then they were probably cracked down on pretty hard. I have no experience, but I have heard that Southern cops are not too friendly to visitors.

As far as Tappy coming in... well I was thinking that it was part of Sara's schizo delusions. She really got hit pretty hard by all that speed. Unfourtunately, it is not too rare of a reaction. Most people that do hard drugs end up like her eventually.

As a side note, I think that every 15 year old would be forced to watch this movie. Best anti-drug advertisement ever.



<< i dont understand why they go to jail: you cant go to jail if you dont have drugs on you or are on them right?

violation of parole for tyrone?

and i dont know #1.

*kat. <-- scarred for life from requiem
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Aihyah

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Harry DID shoot up on the way to Florida, I would assume that there was more drugs on them.


heh yea thats what i thought.. the doctor ratted em out:p sad..
 

DAM

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<< What r u talking about? #3?? >>





have you seen the movie?



#1 no read meat

#2 no refined sugar

#3



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Aihyah

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if you have the directors cut dvd you can watch the entire tappy sequence.. its pretty long actually. just like the magnolia thing with cruise. its at the bottom of the main menu, guess its a hidden feature:p
 

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<< They got arrested because they ended up in a conservative area that didn't like blackpeople/drugs .. why else would they throw him in jail and not treat his arm? That's f-ing sadist. >>

that was my understaing too
 

monto

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speaking of which, i remember some big black folks in the same jail as Tyrone, i got the impression he was being 'attacked', contributing to his dismal condition along with the withdrawal
 

Platypus

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I know what #3 is.

You do to, think about it.


What is the movie about...?
What would be the most ironic...?

Oh yeah.. #3) No drugs.

Of course this is just my opinion, but it makes sense, and is definetly Aranofksy style.
 

DAM

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think thin



this is the one that drives people mad!!!




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Abomination

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#3 is never said in the movie
however, It's in the script tho. Tappy says, &quot;this drives most people crazy&quot; and it's &quot;no orgasms&quot;
No sex in other words :)
heh

Tyrone threw up from withdrawl from drugs and the kind of home sick / crap feeling you get when you're in a jail with a bunch of hicks. Kind of like when Marion throws up after screwing that guy she hated. Nothing physical, she just was so so so uncomfortable that she couldn't take it.

The point of Tappy coming into the house is very obvious. She dreamed of going up there and being basically a different person when she was up there. She dreamed that everyone would like her because she was that different person but she wasn't happy with who she really was so she was having a nightmare (due to her not eating) of her dream turning around and embarrassing her by exposing who she really was.
The point of Tappy making out with her dream self is a little subtle but kind of obvious when you think about it. All day, she watched Tappy so her sexual attraction to tappy was never obvious but I don't think she could've watched him all day if there wasn't any of that type of attraction so her image of herself was making out with Tappy because her image was better then her. In other words, her true personality felt like crap while the personality she wished she could be was doing only what she could dream of.

Oh yea: LOL, they got arrested because the doctor could tell they were junkies so he called in the cops heheh.
That's all
 

Platypus

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I made it all the way through their website with each character and it gives you nothing.......?
 

Abomination

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go to www.imdb.com ... they have a message board for every movie and I'm pretty sure someone with the script tells what #3 is. It was either &quot;no sex&quot; or &quot;no orgasms&quot; or something. Tappy says, &quot;it's easy to keep up until this point but #3 drives most people crazy&quot; and &quot;no sex&quot; makes since to me.
 

Platypus

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Yeah in a deleted scene with Hubert Selby Jr
Hubert plays a guard making fun of Tyrone while he is making mashed potatoes.
 

Platypus

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No, this was a deleted scene, there is no way you could have seen it unless you have the DVD. However, there is another scene like it, withouth Selby. I still dont believe you about No Sex. I need proof.
 

Abomination

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ROFL

If you have the DVD, you can freeze frame it and there's a list of:

1) no red meat

2) no sugar

3) no orgasms

and I don't have the DVD, I downloaded the Divx rip and then bought the VHS...
if you don't believe me, freeze frame it on the &quot;King Neptune&quot; section of the DVD, that's where it is.
 

Platypus

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I know the scene you are speaking of, however on his whiteboard it just has number 3 and a whole bunch of light blue marker in kriss cross patterens.