Republicans, you dun goofed.

[agent00f]

Fiscal conservatism as was interpreted a few decades ago was actually pretty good. It wasn't flawless (trickle down was a disaster). But, overall, the concept of not spending too much, balancing the budget, encouraging work over handouts, shoring up SS and medicare, etc are all great concepts.

The problem is that "conservatives" today (if you can call them that anymore) don't interpret fiscal conservatism that way. They increase spending (see massive spending increases under the last few GOP presidents and even GOP controlled congresses) while cutting taxes (as if that will ever work when spending is up), trash the budget (see the debts racked up in the last few GOP presidents terms), block the government, slash handouts to the point that people can't work as they have no backup, and flat out ignore the SS and medicare problems (the real fiscal problem to focus on), while cheering about 0.01% cuts in the federal spending (ie planned parenthood and similar programs) pretending that they are fiscally conservative.

"Fiscal conservatism" was for the most part just propaganda, sort of like your company saying employees are it's greatest asset blahdy blah. If somebody believed it, great, but nobody who matters really gives a shit.

In effect, it was used to gut programs what spent much money on the ethnics, cut taxes at the top, and prop up white welfare (ie the military industry) to make up the vote deficit from the former. People sometimes feign surprise what the GOP "turned into", but it's always been what is was after the civil rights realignment.

 

[5to1baby1in5]

Republicans aren't going anywhere. It really doesn't matter how crazy the party gets at this point. They just need to gerrymander districts to hold onto congress and obstruct future supreme court justices to keep their grip on power.

Kind of hard to obstruct Supreme Court nominations when they loose the Senate.

Republican party is like a toddler that is having its favorite binky taken away. Throwing fits, lashing out, name calling and stealing it back from the top shelf in the closet. Eventually, the binky will be gone for good, and they will have to grow out of it. That will, unfortunately, require many butt spankings and other forms of attitude adjustments handed out due to antisocial behavior issues before it grows out of it.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Start searching today. Make a list of all the decent people you can think of, not celebrities or outrageous characters.

If no one stands out as high quality, just go ahead and ask Ben Stein. He'd probably do it, and he's not an embarrassment.

Before I give you a like Shorty, explain something to me. How do you reconcile not asking a celebrity with asking a celebrity? I realize Ben has a real background, but his celebrity has been at the forefront of his career for decades. And low energy is one of the buzz words of this election cycle. Ben makes Hill and Trump look hyperactive or coked up. And on that note: I did not watch the debate, did Trump get over his "sniffles"?

 

[shortylickens]

I mean: IF they run out of options and cant think of anyone better, then go ahead and pick Ben Stein.
But first, give normal people a shot.

 

[dullard]

I mean: IF they run out of options and cant think of anyone better, then go ahead and pick Ben Stein.
But first, give normal people a shot.

You have to be criminally insane to actually want to be president. It has low pay considering the amount of work and stress (a similar CEO position would pay 10x to 100x the amount). The job is miserable and lonely. Nearly everyone hates you. 10% of them have been assassinated, another 5% were shot but survived. All since JFK have been threatened with assassination. Nothing you can do is ever right in the public or media's eyes. You are never alone. You have fancy events, non-stop, but with people you don't like and you have to pay for it out of pocket. You have no direct power, as you can only ask congress to send you something you like. The rest of your time is spent begging for money or travelling non-stop so you can do it all over again next election. Etc.

So, normal people don't qualify.

 

[KMFJD]

Why bother, it is a convenient distraction to keep the people divided while the big business, bankers, wallstreet will continue to function and thrive and Hillary.
One example,

If these were the Bundys it would be front page news on the liberal media condemning them every which way, but since it is Native Americans vs Corporate America the liberal media coverage has been scant at best.

2,500 Native Americans Successfully Block Oil Pipeline Construction — State of Emergency Declared
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/native-americans-block-oil-pipeline/#iLGCl1c4Xe5OGMXq.99

I heard about that from the very liberal CBC radio

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[alien42]

go ahead and pick Ben Stein.

uh, no thanks...

https://youtu.be/1G0tfb8ZefA?t=1m23s

 

[Ken g6]

If these were the Bundys it would be front page news on the liberal media condemning them every which way, but since it is Native Americans vs Corporate America the liberal media coverage has been scant at best.

If the Bundys were opposing climate change and the despoiling of public lands, I'd support them too. But the Bundys seem to support the despoiling of public lands.

To get this thread back on topic, if Republicans were opposing climate change and the despoiling of public lands, like they used to, I'd be more inclined to support them, too.