Republicans, you dun goofed.

[shortylickens]

You've tied yourselves to an ideal based on religion and nostalgia, which are not good elements for keeping a political party strong or effective. Your campaigns in particular reflect the foolishness associated with hypocrisy and false memories. You need to stop it.

You've already lost this election, just forget about it and think about the next four years. Start searching today. Make a list of all the decent people you can think of, not celebrities or outrageous characters. Nobody cool. Forget cool. First off, Republicans don't know what Cool is. On top of that Cool doesn't actually seem to be working for you. The party ends up with very unpleasant people who are also unqualified for the job. Find good, honest people with conviction in their hearts and a minimum of dirt in their background. If you spend 4 years vetting and investigating you should be safe. Of the people you find to be good and decent, select those which are actually qualified to be President of the United States. This will create a smaller pool of candidates, certainly, but one that will be able to stand up to debate and media pressure as well as mud-slinging from the Democrats. If no one stands out as high quality, just go ahead and ask Ben Stein. He'd probably do it, and he's not an embarrassment.


Democrats:

Assuming the GOP takes this advice, they won't be putting up sadistic morons anymore. You can't rely on popularity contests at that point. You'll actually have to run a strong campaign with someone who is not a pervert or a criminal.

Be ready.

 

[dank69]

You are forgetting that you have to be a psychopath to support most GOP policies.

 

[Moonbeam]

You are forgetting that you have to be a psychopath to support most GOP policies.

/Foiled

 

[dank69]

/Foiled

No, no, I am a radical intolerant leftist belittling an entire political party with a broad brush supported by no evidence.

/Parried

 

[Moonbeam]

No, no, I am a radical intolerant leftist belittling an entire political party with a broad brush supported by no evidence.

/Parried

Touché

 

[WHAMPOM]

No, no, I am a radical intolerant leftist belittling an entire political party with a broad brush supported by no evidence.

/Parried

No evidence?/ That sure pinged the sarcasometer.

 

[Starbuck1975]

'Member chewbacca again? I 'member!!!

 

[dullard]

This will create a smaller pool of candidates, certainly, but one that will be able to stand up to debate and media pressure as well as mud-slinging from the Democrats.

That is all necessary, but it isn't sufficient.

The GOP has relied on a loose knit net of single-issue voters with no glue binding them together and who are getting to the age that they are dying off faster than new members are joining. At the same time the GOP (party and platform) has morphed enough from a respectable party in the ~1980s to a laughing stock now. Their last remaining members they are often voting due to party loyalty and hatred of the other party rather than true love of what the GOP has become. Finally, the GOP has focused on ideals that quite frankly are highly toxic to many millennials.

Yes, the GOP needs to find good candidates. But those are a dime a dozen. The GOP really needs to focus on what made them great 30 years ago, modernize it for the society we will be 30 years from now, and run with that. They need to create true ties to bind the single-issue voters together (other than an iron fist and endless pledges that people like Trump will just laugh off). They need to be a party worth voting FOR rather than just bashing the other party hoping to make the other party look worse.

Give us a true platform of true things that you will put forward. Don't mention anything that you will block. But let us know how the GOP will LEAD not REACT. Base your newly reformed platform on positive issues (personal responsibility to work hard) not hatred (immigrants took my job) even if those two are truly linked (a hard worker won't have their job taken away). You may lose another election or two doing this. But you'll emerge from the ashes a party worth joining again.

 

[Jhhnn]

You've tied yourselves to an ideal based on religion and nostalgia, which are not good elements for keeping a political party strong or effective. Your campaigns in particular reflect the foolishness associated with hypocrisy and false memories. You need to stop it.

You've already lost this election, just forget about it and think about the next four years. Start searching today. Make a list of all the decent people you can think of, not celebrities or outrageous characters. Nobody cool. Forget cool. First off, Republicans don't know what Cool is. On top of that Cool doesn't actually seem to be working for you. The party ends up with very unpleasant people who are also unqualified for the job. Find good, honest people with conviction in their hearts and a minimum of dirt in their background. If you spend 4 years vetting and investigating you should be safe. Of the people you find to be good and decent, select those which are actually qualified to be President of the United States. This will create a smaller pool of candidates, certainly, but one that will be able to stand up to debate and media pressure as well as mud-slinging from the Democrats. If no one stands out as high quality, just go ahead and ask Ben Stein. He'd probably do it, and he's not an embarrassment.

Rick Parry is a fictional character dreamed up by Stephen Colbert. He doesn't really exist, certainly not in the ranks of the Repub party.

Democrats:

Assuming the GOP takes this advice, they won't be putting up sadistic morons anymore. You can't rely on popularity contests at that point. You'll actually have to run a strong campaign with someone who is not a pervert or a criminal.

Be ready.

It was Repubs who made this election about innuendo, gossip, personalities, how nobody can trust Hillary cuz Whitewater, Vince Foster, Benghazi, email & shit. That demonization started over 20 years ago and intensified even before the Primaries were settled. They don't want to talk about issues because they really have no constructive answers. They're just here to spread he FUD.

And then they nominated Trump, basically Dems' dream opponent. He exemplifies & draws out everything that's wrong with the Repub party, all the ugliness, all the astounding insincerity of folks like Christie, Pence, Giuliani & the rest of his cheerleaders.

Whenever Repubs can drag themselves up out of that muck Hillary & Dems will discuss policy any time they want. It's all laid out here-

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

 

[glenn1]

You've tied yourselves to an ideal based on religion and nostalgia, which are not good elements for keeping a political party strong or effective. Your campaigns in particular reflect the foolishness associated with hypocrisy and false memories. You need to stop it.

You've already lost this election, just forget about it and think about the next four years. Start searching today. Make a list of all the decent people you can think of, not celebrities or outrageous characters. Nobody cool. Forget cool. First off, Republicans don't know what Cool is. On top of that Cool doesn't actually seem to be working for you. The party ends up with very unpleasant people who are also unqualified for the job. Find good, honest people with conviction in their hearts and a minimum of dirt in their background. If you spend 4 years vetting and investigating you should be safe. Of the people you find to be good and decent, select those which are actually qualified to be President of the United States. This will create a smaller pool of candidates, certainly, but one that will be able to stand up to debate and media pressure as well as mud-slinging from the Democrats. If no one stands out as high quality, just go ahead and ask Ben Stein. He'd probably do it, and he's not an embarrassment.

Democrats:

Assuming the GOP takes this advice, they won't be putting up sadistic morons anymore. You can't rely on popularity contests at that point. You'll actually have to run a strong campaign with someone who is not a pervert or a criminal.

Be ready.

Wow, such specifics like "'tied yourself an ideal" or "false memories." That's sure some helpful feedback.

 

[retrospooty]

No, no, I am a radical intolerant leftist belittling an entire political party with a broad brush supported by no evidence.

/Parried

I believe the guy who won the nomination is evidence enough.

 

[Sonikku]

Republicans aren't going anywhere. It really doesn't matter how crazy the party gets at this point. They just need to gerrymander districts to hold onto congress and obstruct future supreme court justices to keep their grip on power.

 

[Jhhnn]

Republicans aren't going anywhere. It really doesn't matter how crazy the party gets at this point. They just need to gerrymander districts to hold onto congress and obstruct future supreme court justices to keep their grip on power.

They've destroyed their own credibility, even among the Faithful. They'll likely continue iwth their obstructionism to tear it down even more. No amount of gerrymandering can keep them competitive when people figure it out.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Republicans aren't going anywhere. It really doesn't matter how crazy the party gets at this point. They just need to gerrymander districts to hold onto congress and obstruct future supreme court justices to keep their grip on power.

Not true. Angry Old White Man is dying. Young folks with cell phones and Facebook aren't buying into the xenophobia and between Blacks and Hispanics, Whites are slowly becoming the new minority. Young people aren't feeling the GOP or the Dems and that is why Trump and Bernie got traction. The youth are about to redefine and reinvent our political system. For someone who has seen the status quo fluctuate very slightly over the decades, this feels like some "historical shit".

Roe v Wade, a black president, married gays?!?!?! Any who was old 50 years ago would reach for a shotgun if they saw this shit.

 

[Puffnstuff]

They need to call Dr. Frankenstein and have him resurrect the Gipper from the dead. Religiphobia aside the right wingers will regroup to the sound of their turkey calls and conjure up another face. Because of their incompetence the Democrats were able to field our first black president and now our first female president. Their next candidate will probably be an unemployed circus clown from some backwoods former steel town. Maybe next time they try using a female they'll vet her running mate and make sure that he doesn't stare at her butt during speeches.

 

[retrospooty]

Republicans aren't going anywhere. It really doesn't matter how crazy the party gets at this point. They just need to gerrymander districts to hold onto congress and obstruct future supreme court justices to keep their grip on power.

True, they arent, but they do need to shift a bit and drop the anti science, anti choice, anti gay, and anti minority crap or they will never win another national election. Drop those minor social conservative points, get back to focusing on what really matters fiscal conservatism and put up a 1/2 way decent candidate and they are 110% back.

 

[1prophet]

True, they arent, but they do need to shift a bit and drop the anti science, anti choice, anti gay, and anti minority crap or they will never win another national election. Drop those minor social conservative points, get back to focusing on what really matters fiscal conservatism and put up a 1/2 way decent candidate and they are 110% back.

Why bother, it is a convenient distraction to keep the people divided while the big business, bankers, wallstreet will continue to function and thrive and Hillary.
One example,

If these were the Bundys it would be front page news on the liberal media condemning them every which way, but since it is Native Americans vs Corporate America the liberal media coverage has been scant at best.

2,500 Native Americans Successfully Block Oil Pipeline Construction — State of Emergency Declared
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/native-americans-block-oil-pipeline/#iLGCl1c4Xe5OGMXq.99

The tribes and environmental groups have appealed to the president to use his authority to halt the Dakota Access project, but they have received no response from the White House. The president, traveling in Laos, was asked about the tribe’s protest but did not specifically address the case in his answer.

Neither Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton nor GOP nominee Donald Trump has stated a position on the pipeline.

 

[ivwshane]

Why bother, it is a convenient distraction to keep the people divided while the big business, bankers, wallstreet will continue to function and thrive and Hillary.
One example,

If these were the Bundys it would be front page news on the liberal media condemning them every which way, but since it is Native Americans vs Corporate America the liberal media coverage has been scant at best.

2,500 Native Americans Successfully Block Oil Pipeline Construction — State of Emergency Declared
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/native-americans-block-oil-pipeline/#iLGCl1c4Xe5OGMXq.99

I heard about this about a while ago on my liberal tv news.

Perhaps today's why you don't know the Obama admin already did something (temporary).

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...ation-orders-nd-pipeline-construction-to-stop

Maybe its time to get out of your bubble.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why bother, it is a convenient distraction to keep the people divided while the big business, bankers, wallstreet will continue to function and thrive and Hillary.
One example,

If these were the Bundys it would be front page news on the liberal media condemning them every which way, but since it is Native Americans vs Corporate America the liberal media coverage has been scant at best.

2,500 Native Americans Successfully Block Oil Pipeline Construction — State of Emergency Declared
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/native-americans-block-oil-pipeline/#iLGCl1c4Xe5OGMXq.99

Bullshit. This isn't armed insurrection like the Bundyites.

 

[trenchfoot]

Thrust.....parry......foiled......sounds like Trump having one of his groping incidents.

 

[dank69]

True, they arent, but they do need to shift a bit and drop the anti science, anti choice, anti gay, and anti minority crap or they will never win another national election. Drop those minor social conservative points, get back to focusing on what really matters fiscal conservatism and put up a 1/2 way decent candidate and they are 110% back.

The term "fiscal conservatism" is a winner right up until you look at the policies required to achieve it. Every one of those policies is a loser when actually examined.

Which is exactly why the GOP needs social conservative issues to keep their faithful voting for policies that hurt them.

 

[dullard]

The term "fiscal conservatism" is a winner right up until you look at the policies required to achieve it. Every one of those policies is a loser when actually examined.

Which is exactly why the GOP needs social conservative issues to keep their faithful voting for policies that hurt them.

Fiscal conservatism as was interpreted a few decades ago was actually pretty good. It wasn't flawless (trickle down was a disaster). But, overall, the concept of not spending too much, balancing the budget, encouraging work over handouts, shoring up SS and medicare, etc are all great concepts.

The problem is that "conservatives" today (if you can call them that anymore) don't interpret fiscal conservatism that way. They increase spending (see massive spending increases under the last few GOP presidents and even GOP controlled congresses) while cutting taxes (as if that will ever work when spending is up), trash the budget (see the debts racked up in the last few GOP presidents terms), block the government, slash handouts to the point that people can't work as they have no backup, and flat out ignore the SS and medicare problems (the real fiscal problem to focus on), while cheering about 0.01% cuts in the federal spending (ie planned parenthood and similar programs) pretending that they are fiscally conservative.

 

[dank69]

Fiscal conservatism as was interpreted a few decades ago was actually pretty good. It wasn't flawless (trickle down was a disaster). But, overall, the concept of not spending too much, balancing the budget, encouraging work over handouts, shoring up SS and medicare, etc are all great concepts.

The problem is that "conservatives" today (if you can call them that anymore) don't interpret fiscal conservatism that way. They increase spending (see massive spending increases under the last few GOP presidents and even GOP controlled congresses) while cutting taxes (as if that will ever work when spending is up), trash the budget (see the debts racked up in the last few GOP presidents terms), block the government, slash handouts to the point that people can't work as they have no backup, and flat out ignore the SS and medicare problems (the real fiscal problem to focus on), while cheering about 0.01% cuts in the federal spending (ie planned parenthood and similar programs) pretending that they are fiscally conservative.

The concept of not spending too much is so vague that it is essentially meaningless. It sounds great until you understand that it is used by wealthy people to convince the little people that the government shouldn't be providing services for them. This leaves the little people with no services or paying orders of magnitude more for those same services from the private sector.

Saying fiscal conservatism was flawed by trickle-down is like saying a design for a jet is flawed because it can't even get off the ground. Any plan that has any version of trickle-down should be a nonstarter at this point, even with people who are extremely wealthy. Wealthy people that support trickle-down are like 3-year-olds who can't resist eating the cookie in front of them when told that they will get 2 cookies if they don't eat it for 5 minutes. They either don't understand or don't care that if they pay more taxes, all the little people will have more money to buy all the shit they produce. All they care about is that the government is taking some of their money. They don't want more money, they want all the money.

Balancing the budget, encouraging work over handouts and shoring up SS and Medicare are all supported by Democrats.

 

[retrospooty]

The term "fiscal conservatism" is a winner right up until you look at the policies required to achieve it. Every one of those policies is a loser when actually examined. Which is exactly why the GOP needs social conservative issues to keep their faithful voting for policies that hurt them.

What the GOP has done for the past few decades (basically since at least Reagan) is not fiscal conservatism. I am talking about the old time republican values of small govt, and a low tax business friendly environment. The problem with our govt. today is it simply spends way too much money. Too many expenses, too many bureaucracies, and mostly too many lucrative contracts for congressman/senators business partners. That isnt fiscal conservatism, that is robbery.

 

[Jaepheth]

Need to reclaim your political party from fanatics? Hmmm...