Republicans winning the war on the poor and working families

[Matt1970]

That's great that they support the EPA! Who was it that formed the EPA? OSHA was great too. Who formed OSHA? The FDA was a great idea too. Who formalized the FDA?

And I keep hearing that the ACA was a "Republican plan" too. Will you guys please make up your minds?

If anything bad is said about it, it's the ACA Republican plan. If anything good is said about it it's Obamacare.

 

[Cozarkian]

It's apparently more profitable to cut domestic employment & loan the govt the money for welfare than it is to create American jobs.

That's because the middle class have a higher share of the burden for welfare than the percentage of cost savings by exportation of jobs.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's great that they support the EPA! Who was it that formed the EPA? OSHA was great too. Who formed OSHA? The FDA was a great idea too. Who formalized the FDA?

And I keep hearing that the ACA was a "Republican plan" too. Will you guys please make up your minds?

Get Real. Neither TR nor Nixon would be viewed as Republican by today's standards. Today's Repubs are yesteryear's Southern Democrats led & financed by uber wealthy right wing ideologues. It's just the truth. Deal with it.

 

[Cozarkian]

Not only that, we are demanding they pay exorbitant wages, paid time off, free healthcare, have a safe clean workspace that doesn't pollute yet they have no problem deciding to purchase a product made here:

The real stupidity is that the cry for domestic changes to labor laws like increasing minimum wage is not accompanied by calls to insure we aren't giving a competitive advantage to countries with significantly fewer labor protections. We need fair trade, not "free" trade. (I use "free" because the concept of free trade is based on the idea of letting the market regulate itself, so it isn't actually free trade when half the market is regulated.)

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Get Real. Neither TR nor Nixon would be viewed as Republican by today's standards. Today's Repubs are yesteryear's Southern Democrats led & financed by uber wealthy right wing ideologues. It's just the truth. Deal with it.

Well, good to see both parties have something in common today.

 

[Jhhnn]

If anything bad is said about it, it's the ACA Republican plan. If anything good is said about it it's Obamacare.

Hardly. It never was a serious plan from Repubs, anyway- just a way to muddy the waters over Hillarycare. "See, we have a plan too!" It never was fleshed out, not to mention that Repubs have been further radicalized over the intervening 20 years.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, good to see both parties have something in common today.

It's good to see that you can still maintain denial, if with increasing difficulty. I suspect you'll manage.

Who's fighting to keep anonymous money in politics, anyway?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

It's good to see that you can still maintain denial, if with increasing difficulty. I suspect you'll manage.

Who's fighting to keep anonymous money in politics, anyway?

Speaking of denial, do you deny that the Democrats are financed by the ultra wealthy too?

 

[glenn1]

Heh. They already made the choice. Witness the welfare state, like it or not. It won't be going away anytime RSN. It's apparently more profitable to cut domestic employment & loan the govt the money for welfare than it is to create American jobs.

Article linked by OP and his opinion is that the rich are waging war on the poor because they're opposing expansion of the welfare state. You're comparing bread and circuses of the Wonder Bread class against the $35/loaf stuff from Whole Foods and Cirque du Soleil. And the welfare state you have built for the poor is like this:

 

[Matt1970]

The real stupidity is that the cry for domestic changes to labor laws like increasing minimum wage is not accompanied by calls to insure we aren't giving a competitive advantage to countries with significantly fewer labor protections. We need fair trade, not "free" trade. (I use "free" because the concept of free trade is based on the idea of letting the market regulate itself, so it isn't actually free trade when half the market is regulated.)

Are you telling me it is not beneficial to have free trade with a country that pays it's workers $8/day and has atrocious health and safety records?

 

[Cozarkian]

Who's fighting to keep anonymous money in politics, anyway?

Nobody, but there are some people fighting to prevent the degradation of the constitutional right to free speech. May I suggest a law that requires political candidate to disclose the amount of anonymous donations received? Then the voters can decide whether they think the politician has been bought by casting their vote.

 

[Cozarkian]

Are you telling me it is not beneficial to have free trade with a country that pays it's workers $8/day and has atrocious health and safety records?

Give this man a cookie.

 

[Matt1970]

Give this man a cookie.

Weeeeee

 

[Jhhnn]

Nobody, but there are some people fighting to prevent the degradation of the constitutional right to free speech. May I suggest a law that requires political candidate to disclose the amount of anonymous donations received? Then the voters can decide whether they think the politician has been bought by casting their vote.

Please. Contending that free speech isn't free when you have to own it is bullshit. Nobody is trying to deny the right to say it, at all.

When the Uber Wealthy give money to universities, hospitals & so forth, they want their name on it. When they buy politicians, organizations & advertising to influence politics, they want to pretend that the money just fell from the sky. Go figure.

And if they're not fighting to keep anonymous money in politics, wtf is this?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7cfd9a-719b-11e3-9389-09ef9944065e_story.html

 

[Jhhnn]

Article linked by OP and his opinion is that the rich are waging war on the poor because they're opposing expansion of the welfare state. You're comparing bread and circuses of the Wonder Bread class against the $35/loaf stuff from Whole Foods and Cirque du Soleil. And the welfare state you have built for the poor is like this:

As more & more work is automated & offshored to satisfy the profit motive of the financial elite, expansion of the welfare system is an obvious necessity if we're to maintain domestic tranquillity & social cohesiveness.

Remember how they told us that more of that would give us more leisure time & better working conditions? They forgot to mention that not having a job is forced low quality leisure & that working conditions aren't an issue in that scenario, either. Well, until you're homeless, at which point mere survival becomes a job.