Republicans' jobs legislation

[Craig234]

So, Republicans have had the House, where all spending bills start, for over a year.

They ran saying their #1 agenda was jobs - #2 and #3 also jobs.

So, a question: were they saying that because it was politically useful and a lie, or was it honest?

To settle the question, I suggest people who defend them list the legislation they passed.

If it's clear they passed a lot of jobs legislation, ok; if not, they lose.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Didn't they pass a bill about light bulbs? I wonder if they can construe that as saving jobs.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Didn't they pass a bill about light bulbs? I wonder if they can construe that as saving jobs.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work. One can write any number of bills, however unless substantial effort is put forward to create an environment which favors domestic job creation based on economic factors there will be no substantial change. Government can facilitate such a climate but no amount of money given away will result in a positive and long lasting job creation any more than giving away a medicaid check will create employment.

Neither party is applying much effort along these lines. Doing the wrong stuff harder doesn't work.

 

[gsaldivar]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

 

[senseamp]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72392.html

They are still debating if they should do something FOR America or just do everything AGAINST Obama.

 

[PeshakJang]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

Uh oh... You ended Craig's little romp in the shallow end of the pool pretty quickly. Get ready to go on his ignore list.

 

[UberNeuman]

The GOP's problem is that they have nothing to offer other than what they've offered in the past...

\and what they've offered in the past has been shown to not work...

 

[cubby1223]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

Stop proving Craig wrong all the time, he hates when people do that!

 

[Craig234]

So far, zero has been posted (with some peeking at ignored posters included).

'Republicans passed a deregulation act' doesn't automatically get them jobs credit.

Credible analysts pointing to what they passed and how many jobs it creates, net, and the type of jobs - American? minimum wage? full time? is required.

Or if it's clear from the bill - but things like that are not clear about net jobs.

We'll give them another try to post evidence, they haven't yet.

 

[monovillage]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

They don't have "jobs" in the title, they only count if they have "jobs" in the title.

Just in case there is one that has "jobs" in the title it has to say "lots of jobs" in the title.

If one happened to show up with "lots of jobs" in the title, it wouldn't count unless it said "lots of union jobs" in the title.

if.................. you get the idea, nothing would ever be just what he was looking for.

 

[Jaskalas]

The GOP's problem is that they have nothing to offer other than what they've offered in the past...

I disagree, we offer plenty. We stop you, and that's all that is required.

The more dysfunctional the federal government, the more pressing our needs become, the more likely it is for our most partisan states to solve the problems on their own. That exercise of freedom means everything. Pushing them to that end should be done by any means necessary.

Your problem is that the GOP exists. Tough luck in the federal government, where you don't do anything without a super majority.

 

[UberNeuman]

I disagree, we offer plenty.

Which is? Other than Gays, Guns and God...

What is it you wish to "stop?"

 

[sportage]

Don't mistake this for just a "Yawn".
Romney and Newt, along with republican candidates for house, senate and local government, are all running on this "where are the jobs" theme.
When in actuality, their agenda consists solely of enforcing their extreme right wing religious agenda, extreme right wing social agenda, and finish killing off unions.
They care not about jobs, the poor, the middle class, education, or fair taxation.
If nothing else, haven’t we at least learned that lesson?
Republicans care not how bad things become in this country, care not how unfair taxes are, care not how high unemployment becomes, or how massive the national debt.
Romney has already said he has no plans or interest in ending wars.
He only cares about starting a few more.
And if our wars are not ended, don't expect the national debt to improve.
GW Bush taught us well that lesson in economics. No?
The republicans agenda includes increasing and extending the Bush tax cuts, while raising middle class taxes. Gutting all social programs, gutting education funding, gutting Medicare and returning us to the mercy of an unregulated banking and insurance industry.
They will find, take, borrow from China, and spend all the money they need despite the national debt, if it further advances their social agenda.
So go ahead.... be fooled twice. Or should I say thrice.
Believe a republican running for office.
It's not like you have never fell for that line before.
No doubt voters will fall for it again. And again, And again.
Then at some point wonder "what the hell?" Just like before....

 

[tweaker2]

Don't mistake this for just a "Yawn".
Romney and Newt, along with republican candidates for house, senate and local government, are all running on this "where are the jobs" theme.
When in actuality, their agenda consists solely of enforcing their extreme right wing religious agenda, extreme right wing social agenda, and finish killing off unions.
They care not about jobs, the poor, the middle class, education, or fair taxation.
If nothing else, haven’t we at least learned that lesson?
Republicans care not how bad things become in this country, care not how unfair taxes are, care not how high unemployment becomes, or how massive the national debt.
Romney has already said he has no plans or interest in ending wars.
He only cares about starting a few more.
And if our wars are not ended, don't expect the national debt to improve.
GW Bush taught us well that lesson in economics. No?
The republicans agenda includes increasing and extending the Bush tax cuts, while raising middle class taxes. Gutting all social programs, gutting education funding, gutting Medicare and returning us to the mercy of an unregulated banking and insurance industry.
They will find, take, borrow from China, and spend all the money they need despite the national debt, if it further advances their social agenda.
So go ahead.... be fooled twice. Or should I say thrice.
Believe a republican running for office.
It's not like you have never fell for that line before.
No doubt voters will fall for it again. And again, And again.
Then at some point wonder "what the hell?" Just like before....

Agreed. However, logic and common sense is trumped over by blind partisanship and a visceral hatred for Obama.

Imagine that...we have the very rich in firm control of the Repub hard core middle class and poor. The Repub elite are, through the effective use of propaganda, corruption and power plays having these folks fight against their own best interests, AND these folks are doing it willingly, with the rich elite snickering and chuckling at the great job they're doing keeping their base as closeted and close-minded as any North Korean ruler ever did to their own.

The Repub elite's biggest fear is that the vast majority of the population that the middle class and the poor represent will unify and demand an actual piece of the American pie rather than the crumbs they're being allowed to pick off the floor that "trickled down" from the feast the elite are feeding on.

 

[dmcowen674]

Republicans' jobs legislation

What Republicans' jobs legislation?

The only thing they have been hell bent on is making sure Obama can't pass any.

 

[Ausm]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

LOL That the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever seen.....

It's hearsay to ASSUME that cutting or eliminating a regulation will create a plethora of jobs. This is especially true if you understand how at the beginning of the recession businesses were shedding jobs like crazy but now when you look at the data these businesses are making profits like crazy with HALF their labor force.

Eliminating regulation won't CREATE jobs but just add to the padding that Big Biz is already enjoying.

 

[PeshakJang]

So far, zero has been posted (with some peeking at ignored posters included).

'Republicans passed a deregulation act' doesn't automatically get them jobs credit.

Credible analysts pointing to what they passed and how many jobs it creates, net, and the type of jobs - American? minimum wage? full time? is required.

Or if it's clear from the bill - but things like that are not clear about net jobs.

We'll give them another try to post evidence, they haven't yet.

You're easier to call than 411.

 

[EagleKeeper]

We do know that Obama killed 2K jobs though that the Republicans were trying to get approval on.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

Real Googling reveals just how much each of Cantor's "Jobs Bills" actually applies to jobs. Basically, they don't, other than in the usual "Regulation kills Jerbs!" ways that Teatards spooge over.

I'd encourage forum members to look under the covers, see what the bills really attempt to do rather than what Repubs represent them to be. H.J.Res.37, for example, is an attack on Net Neutrality...

Don't be a chump, OK?

 

[dmcowen674]

Obama on a jobs creation roll:

2-3-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/unemp...BzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

Unemployment rate down to 8.3 pct. after hiring burst


Employers added 243,000 jobs in January



The unemployment rate fell for the fifth straight month after a surge of January hiring, a promising shift in the nation's outlook for job growth.

Employers have added an average of 201,000 jobs per month in the past three months. That's 50,000 more jobs per month than the economy averaged in each month last year.

The January jobs report was filled with other encouraging data and revisions. Hiring was widespread across many high-paying industries. Pay increased. And the economy added 200,000 more jobs in 2011 than first thought.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yawn.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=house+majority+jobs+tracker&l=1

Bang, headshot!

 

[PeshakJang]

Obama on a jobs creation roll:

2-3-2012

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/unemp...BzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

Unemployment rate down to 8.3 pct. after hiring burst


Employers added 243,000 jobs in January



The unemployment rate fell for the fifth straight month after a surge of January hiring, a promising shift in the nation's outlook for job growth.

Employers have added an average of 201,000 jobs per month in the past three months. That's 50,000 more jobs per month than the economy averaged in each month last year.

The January jobs report was filled with other encouraging data and revisions. Hiring was widespread across many high-paying industries. Pay increased. And the economy added 200,000 more jobs in 2011 than first thought.

And this all seemed to start once the 'party of no' took over.

Looks like the republicans have proven that they can succeed where Obama failed for 3 years. The debate is over.

 

[pcgeek11]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2223877

 

[cganesh75]

And this all seemed to start once the 'party of no' took over.

Looks like the republicans have proven that they can succeed where Obama failed for 3 years. The debate is over.

can you believe that? the party of "no" didnt do jack shit and still lowered the unemployment rate.. so now .. since its all because of the republicans.. do you think this 8.3% is "true" 8.3%? or this still doesnt include the ones that gave up looking for jobs etc.. coz Hannity told me that the true unemployment is actually 15% or more..

 

[fskimospy]

And this all seemed to start once the 'party of no' took over.

Looks like the republicans have proven that they can succeed where Obama failed for 3 years. The debate is over.

lol.

Speaking of people who are easier to call than 411, I remember saying the usual suspects would try to take credit for this months ago.