Republicans in MI and AZ sent forged certificates of ascertainment declaring Trump/Pence the winners after the election.

Cerpin Taxt

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This seems bad...

"As Trump's team pushed its discredited voter fraud narrative, the National Archives received forged certificates of ascertainment declaring him and then-Vice President Mike Pence the winners of both Michigan and Arizona and their electors after the 2020 election."

 

nickqt

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Get ready, states are actually implementing laws that will allow them to legally do this and other similar things to overthrow election results.

Because freedom*.

*By freedom, fascists means fascism.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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Any righties want to defend this? Is forgery of official state documents to overturn an election now ok?

Here is your second chance righties, let’s see if you can put country before party this time around. Let’s hear that condemnation.
 

soundforbjt

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Moonbeam

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Bub but but, think of the shit storm that will happen these worthless scum are criminally charged. It will just show the world how mean and partisan Democrats really are. It would make Garland a raving savage instead of a reasonable compassionate healer and that is just the most important thing in the world to morally developed liberals. You know Mommy told us to be nice and not going around with a knife behind your back in your left hand looking for all of your Christian brothers and sisters, right?

Where are the Democrats who can pursue justice ruthlessly without having to spew violence and hatred while doing it. I think if Garland doesn't act and doesn't get fired we are fucked. The frustration is killing me but it still seems too early for me to conclude whether justice will be done or not.
 

Jaskalas

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I had imagined you spoke of State Officials or Legislatures not following the vote count as it stood. Of certifying counts with different electors or some such BS, as is the complexity of our system. The things Republicans imagined doing to get Pence to not certify the results.

But no, you have third parties, in no way elected and in no official position, that forged these documents.
Those crimes should have been dealt with the minute we had an AG.
 

gothuevos

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Nothing happened when Trump asked them to find 11000 votes for him in GA, and nothing will happen here.

Future generations will ask the survivors, "Why didn't you do anything to stop this blatant coup and destruction of guardrails?"

Trick question, there will be no survivors to ask and the history books that contained it will have been banned or burned.
 

tweaker2

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The Repubs are fighting for the very survival of their party while the Dems are fighting for the very survival of the nation.

Guess whose job is infinitely harder to accomplish? The Repubs have only to instill doubt in the electorate while the Dems have to convince the nation that we truly are at a crossroads and we need to overcome the Repub's efforts at cheating the system in their favor in order to install a fascist state led by one Donald Trump.

This is a point in time in our history where the Repubs have committed themselves to seizing power by creating chaos and fomenting a divide in the nation along the lines of race, religion and redefining what it is to be a patriot. They're attempting to force the nation to accept that their malevolent behavior is the new normal, that their behavior is patriotic, of all things.
 

cytg111

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What the actual fuck

How close were you? Its almost like a miracle you're still here...

 
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gothuevos

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What the actual fuck

How close were you? Its almost like a miracle you're still here...

Can you imagine if Obama or Hilary had pulled a stunt like this?

And why are we hearing about this just now? And in such a casual fashion?
 
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Zorba

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What the actual fuck

How close were you? Its almost like a miracle you're still here...

People need to be in jail for this, and not the 3 month sentences handed out for storming the Capitol and beating on cops.
 

tweaker2

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The Repub's crimes against the nation, led by example from Trump's own malfeasance have a strategy that revolves around the idea that they will commit these crimes to acquire control of the nation and then excuse themselves of said crimes due to their having the control to do it.

Like any authoritarian the world over has done, this Repub strategy relies on their ability to create panic and instability of the system in place, exploit it to its maximum potential, seize power and "fix" things so that they will remain in power from that moment forward, never having to be held accountable for the coup they perpetrated.

Trump's failure at that attempt is now seen by the Repubs as a test, a trial of which produced a feasible result that has encouraged and compelled them to improve and perfect what Trump tried and failed at of which Is now being put into effect.

To reiterate, the Repubs are now attempting to seize control of the nation and never relinquish it for fear of the retribution that would follow should they fail. We're that close to becoming a dictatorship that Donald Trump will be the titular head of.
 

hal2kilo

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What the actual fuck

How close were you? Its almost like a miracle you're still here...

She been on this story for a few days.
 

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