Republicans backing off "repeal" call of Healthcare Reform Bill

[Fern]

So you haven't noticed 15 state attorney generals are taking this bill to the courts?

Even if they succeed and appeals to SCOTUS come down in the Republicans' favor, SCOTUS is not going to burn the bill. The very Justices who would have any inclination to rule against the Constitutionality of the bill are the same ones who would be inclined to write narrow rulings.

As for the mandate, it can be tweaked in its verbiage so that it is no mandate at all. All they have to do is rename the fine to be a tax, and refund it to people who choose to purchase an approved insurance product. This applies to pretty much all the fines in the bill.

The courts are not going to destroy this bill.

First let me confess that I'm not very familiar with their lawsuits.

But my understanding is that much of their (the states) concern centers around the expanded Medicaid mandate.

Yes, for some years it will be heavily funded by the federal government, but what happens after that? Most likely that massive load must be assumed by the states themselves.

I think of this like some sort of 'federal crack', once you get people addicted to it no one will be able to take it away.

I suspect the result will be turning the now 'low-tax' states into high tax states like MA.

I think most people are presently concerned with the various explicit/distict benefits and penalties, but these are mostly 'small-picture' type individual elements. I suspect some 'big picture' type concerns might be forthcoming once everybody gains a better understanding of what's in the bill.

Fern

 

[cubby1223]

Seriously, are you that naive? First of all AT&T, Caterpillar were using a loop hole in the tax system to avoid paying taxes. That loophole got closed, so now they have to pay, what they should of paid in the past.

Seriously, how braindead are you guys?

It's not a loophole if it was intentionally put in to law.

There is a reason for why it is as it is.

But I don't that you even know what that reason is. More likely you just read some blogger rant about evil corporations not paying their fair share.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I wouldn't bet the farm on that.

Fern

It's not like people have any say in it. The Dems will tell them how great it is, the parrots will repeat it and that will settle it.

It's like Bible literalists.

 

[ProfJohn]

To be fair the democrats(specifically dixiecrats) that were against that stuff at the time are now mostly part of the republican party... so while not technically true, it would actually be accurate if given a more modern context.

You do realize that the vast majority of racist Democrats never changed office.

The few that did and that are repeatedly pointed too, such as Strom Thurmond, were the exception.

 

[Matthiasa]

You do realize that the vast majority of racist Democrats never changed office.

The few that did and that are repeatedly pointed too, such as Strom Thurmond, were the exception.

And in case you missed what I wrote, those with such beliefs now are more likely to join the republican party.