Republicans attack consumer advocate

HomerJS

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It shouldn’t be surprising that Republicans chose to attack consumer advocate Elizabeth Warren but don’t have any sort of vitriol for the sort of corporate crime that popped up during Enron and the recent financial crisis.
Could someone explain to the GOP that you don’t have to be against regular people in order to also be pro-business?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/elizabeth-warren-cfpb-republicans-house_n_836682.html

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2011/03/...umer-advocate/


Not surprised at all since the republican party sold it's soul to corporate fascism.
 

manimal

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Didnt Ronny Raygun save the world by deregulating the savings and loans and the chemical mfging in the 80s?


I think we should all pitch in and get Hacp a ticket to Somalia where he can experience the zenith of oversightlessness!

or maybe just a copy of Upton Sinclair...
 

Craig234

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Could someone explain to the GOP that you don’t have to be against regular people in order to also be pro-business?

You don't seem to understand, pro-business - when it means that instead of 'extreme pro-busniess to the point of anti-consumer' - while putting consumers first so it's a win-win for business and consumers - they have a name for that already. The name is "Democrat".

But then you do seem to answer your own question:


Not surprised at all since the republican party sold it's soul to corporate fascism.[/QUOTE]

Republicans aren't 'pro-business', they're 'pro-corporatocracy, an extremist agenda that oh by the way eats up small businesses for lunch.

They're pro-oligarchy, pro-plutocracy - some know it and some blindly follow an agenda they don't even understand.
 

Doppel

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EWarren is the only person who comes to mind with any sway in the current government who isn't an obvious corporatist whore (term used in an asexual manner). Of course Republicans don't like that.
 
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"I don't care how big you are, I don't care who you your friends are, everybody follows the law," Warren said, adding later, "What this agency is about is making the prices clear, making the risks clear, making it easy to compare one product to another. The point is to get an informed consumer, because I believe that American families are good at making decisions when they have good information upfront."

BURN HER!

More of her radical anti-American views here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A
 

RightIsWrong

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I think that this quote from the article is extremely telling of the mindset of a lot of the right in Congress:

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) has introduced a bill to establish such a board, which has garnered 11 Republican cosponsors, and last week told an audience of international bankers that such a commission was the most feasible way to limit further regulation given Democratic control of the Senate.

First, the guy is speaking to international bankers, next...he's telling them that they will do everything in their power to let them keep their power and not have any hard rules that they must follow and lastly, they want to make it a commission that I'm sure will have to be appointed by or approved by Congress which means that they can kill any nomination that they feel won't be "good for business".
 

Darwin333

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It shouldn’t be surprising that Republicans chose to attack consumer advocate Elizabeth Warren but don’t have any sort of vitriol for the sort of corporate crime that popped up during Enron and the recent financial crisis.
Could someone explain to the GOP that you don’t have to be against regular people in order to also be pro-business?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/16/elizabeth-warren-cfpb-republicans-house_n_836682.html

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2011/03/...umer-advocate/


Not surprised at all since the republican party sold it's soul to corporate fascism.

Not to be outdone, the Dems quickly did the same.
 

CitizenKain

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Oversight means regulation means less jobs. FUCK HER.

Can you go be a useless shitposter somewhere else? Not sure why you are worried about jobs, McDonalds is hiring and its possible you might be bright enough to handle the fryer without injuring yourself.
 

Craig234

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Not to be outdone, the Dems quickly did the same.

The progressive wing of the Democratic Party has done no such thing. False equivalency.

They are the ONLY significant political faction in this country that's a viable choice for opposing corporotocracy.

The Democratic Party is quite split between the Progressive and Corporatist wings. What you say could happen, all the more with Citizens United; it hasn't.

95% of what's said about liberals here is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.
 

Macamus Prime

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They can't justify why corporations act like evil cock suckers, so, they attack the people out to expose them.

Funny how liberals are painted as mindless gad-abouts, while conservatives look the other way when fraud, corruption and evil business practices are brought up.

What if the mindless gad-about liberals started padding your wallets, will you like us then?

Sweet bleeding Christ on a cross, some of you mother fuckers are just evil to the core!
 

Hacp

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They can't justify why corporations act like evil cock suckers, so, they attack the people out to expose them.

Funny how liberals are painted as mindless gad-abouts, while conservatives look the other way when fraud, corruption and evil business practices are brought up.

What if the mindless gad-about liberals started padding your wallets, will you like us then?

Sweet bleeding Christ on a cross, some of you mother fuckers are just evil to the core!
If liberalism worked to create jobs and prosperity, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, all it does is stifle jobs, stifle innovation, and concentrate the wealth to a higher class. Why else is Warren Buffet a liberal? He likes to keep his money. Why did he donate a shitload of his money to Africa? To avoid the estate tax. Liberals love to say one thing and do the other. Most of them are also rich and live on the upper east side.
 

thraashman

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If liberalism worked to create jobs and prosperity, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, all it does is stifle jobs, stifle innovation, and concentrate the wealth to a higher class. Why else is Warren Buffet a liberal? He likes to keep his money. Why did he donate a shitload of his money to Africa? To avoid the estate tax. Liberals love to say one thing and do the other. Most of them are also rich and live on the upper east side.

Of course, that must be it. He's trying to avoid taxes, it has nothing to do with him being one of the most philanthropic people on the planet. That must be the same reason why Warren Buffet said that he should be taxed more then, huh?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/21/warren-buffett-paying-more-taxes_n_786516.html

Were you birthed by Sarah Palin, because you're retarded.
 

MovingTarget

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If liberalism worked to create jobs and prosperity, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, all it does is stifle jobs, stifle innovation, and concentrate the wealth to a higher class. Why else is Warren Buffet a liberal? He likes to keep his money. Why did he donate a shitload of his money to Africa? To avoid the estate tax. Liberals love to say one thing and do the other. Most of them are also rich and live on the upper east side.

I think you miss the point. Once upon a time, when America was more progressive in its domestic policies, unions were stronger, taxes higher at the top, financing more regulated - people had jobs. The concentration of wealth were more in line with what people expect it to be, and the middle class were stronger and more prosperous in relative terms than it is today. We even - and here's the kicker - produced many of the things we used every day instead of importing it from China/Vietnam/Taiwan/Japan/etc. Kids today don't remember when that Maytag dishwasher was made in the US - largely because of big business pushing free trade.

I know things weren't rosy back then, either. But it is better for the average person than it is today. We should learn from that and stop the big business/supply side/free trade BS agenda that is dismantling the middle class. Conservatism (at least from an economic standpoint) is leading us down a path of eventual ruin.
 

HomerJS

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If liberalism worked to create jobs and prosperity, I'm all for it. Unfortunately, all it does is stifle jobs, stifle innovation, and concentrate the wealth to a higher class. Why else is Warren Buffet a liberal? He likes to keep his money. Why did he donate a shitload of his money to Africa? To avoid the estate tax. Liberals love to say one thing and do the other. Most of them are also rich and live on the upper east side.

Damn all that liberalism we had from 2001-2009 must have done its job
 

Matt1970

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We even - and here's the kicker - produced many of the things we used every day instead of importing it from China/Vietnam/Taiwan/Japan/etc. Kids today don't remember when that Maytag dishwasher was made in the US - largely because of big business pushing free trade.


Not exactly. Consumers want the lowest price 9 times out of 10 without even looking for the "Made In ?" tag and American made products rarely have that. Every cost involved with making stuff in the US is higher. What are American companies going to do? Keep making the stuff here and piling it up in warehouses? Everyone seems to love thier $10 toaster made in China but then bitches about no jobs here.
 

Hacp

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Not exactly. Consumers want the lowest price 9 times out of 10 without even looking for the "Made In ?" tag and American made products rarely have that. Every cost involved with making stuff in the US is higher. What are American companies going to do? Keep making the stuff here and piling it up in warehouses? Everyone seems to love thier $10 toaster made in China but then bitches about no jobs here.

It doesn't help that union wages,SS,medicare, and unemployment are driving up prices for stuff made in the US. Also doesn't help that sales tax hurts on more expensive items.
 

HomerJS

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It doesn't help that union wages,SS,medicare, and unemployment are driving up prices for stuff made in the US. Also doesn't help that sales tax hurts on more expensive items.

Typical simplistic Tea Party talking points. I guess the fact that Chinas per capita is less then 16% of ours has nothing to do with it
 

jackschmittusa

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And when the Chinese and Mexicans get done poisoning half of their urban populations through lack of environmental and safety regulations, the balance will shift again to some other area where people are expendable commodities in the name of profit.

We need better solutions than returning to that model.
 

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Can't say I'm enamored of layering yet another bureaucracy onto the financial sector. In many ways, this is emblematic of government in general and Democrats in particular. When regulation fails, we simply add on another layer without removing the previous layers of regulation, often under the direction of one politically appointed individual who cannot be held accountable for her performance but CAN be held accountable for her politics. I fear that, as often happens, this new bureaucracy's procedures and rules will conflict with the existing bureaucracies' procedures and rules, simply making it more difficult to do business in the USA and increasing government's ability to politically select winners and losers.

Those of you who love Warren probably won't be so pleased with the selection from, say, President Palin. Simply adding the self-bestowed title of "Consumer advocate" to one's name does not bestow sainthood or business acumen. Hell, Ralph Nader was a "Consumer advocate", and he killed a fine little car by way of building himself a power base. This woman may well have the power to kill an industry.