Republicans are just evil, Idaho edition (Life in Prison for gender treatment)

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cytg111

Lifer
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I've only known one child boy who was 'transexual', and it was pushed on their by their parents at AGE 3!!! Forced to wear pink dresses and play with barbies, etc. It was "cool"... The kid loved the attention, until the kid went to kindergarten and got picked on for wearing a pink dress. Then begged mommy to wear boy clothes. The parents should have been put in prison IMHO.
No you dont. Stop lying.
Wait.
What would your life look like if you stopped lying you think? Goddamn, its a whole other ballgame!!!
 
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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Even the worst of our kind in prisons look down on child abusers. That is telling just where child abusers rest. Beneath murderers. Do the tax payer a service and just get rid of them from the onset.

But, come on. Is it really so different from progressives wishing for people to die of COVID that don't align with their own beliefs? Whole lot of sympathy over there for people not wanting to be lockstep with authoritarianism.

Maybe some nuanced differences but at the end of the day it's similar. Maybe I should shut up because I might give the impression I'm far left.
Then maybe you should take a good hard look at yourself and wonder why you are for rooting for the suffering of teens instead of appropriate medical treatement as decided by the kid, the parents, and doctors. Why do your feels even enter into it?

How many of you even have children? I've raised several. If you're worth a shit you'll do just about anything to protect your kids.

Wow so close to getting it.

That's why on this type of topic the left has its hands full. P&N is a liberal wasteland (I know I'm going to get flack for these posts) and you've had many people come forward and speak out against child abuse any damn way. I can tell not many of you ever got your ass spanked for being stupid and it shows.
And yet so far. From your posts here I’m guessing most of the “raising” was left to your wife. I’m also guessing any non-normative behavior was met with a spanking or belt from you

Thinking you're something other than what you are is some insane shit and to nurture that sort of thing is abuse plain and simple.
Again so close to getting what the problem is for trans folks.

I know many of y'all don't agree, that's cool, I don't agree with many of you either. IMO, this is a wonderful bill, can't wait for more to sweep across the USA!
Then cheering on the inevitable pain and suicide that’ll arise from these laws. Social conservatives always living down to my expectations.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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That never happened. It's wild how people take things out of context and distort it to fit their narrative like it's some innate trait that's effortlessly executed, perhaps subconsciously though.

How many of you even have children? I've raised several. If you're worth a shit you'll do just about anything to protect your kids. That's why on this type of topic the left has its hands full. P&N is a liberal wasteland (I know I'm going to get flack for these posts) and you've had many people come forward and speak out against child abuse any damn way. I can tell not many of you ever got your ass spanked for being stupid and it shows.

In middle America if Democrats try to hang their hat on kid-trans shit Democrats are begging to lose elections. You're going to lose moderate Democrats, Independents and naturally Republicans. Not only would a lot of y'all run interference for child abusers it shows you're dumb as fuck, too. This extremely leftist bubble that's P&N does not correlate to an averaged out America.

Thinking you're something other than what you are is some insane shit and to nurture that sort of thing is abuse plain and simple. I know many of y'all don't agree, that's cool, I don't agree with many of you either. IMO, this is a wonderful bill, can't wait for more to sweep across the USA!
I got my ass spanked with a belt, though never for being stupid. I don't doubt that it happened to you, however. Know what I never did? Beat my kids with a belt.
I've raised kids, they're 19 and 26 now. And I would do anything to protect them from people like you, who are eager to hurt children simply because you don't understand them. Denying trans kids healthcare is child abuse. I literally have first-hand experience here. We have the knowledge and the means to avert their suffering, and you want to punish those who would do so.
 

kitkat22

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3 is a little on the early side, but not unheard of. I knew from the age of 6 for sure, but didn't transition until just over 2 years ago at age 42. Seeing/feeling what it's done for me, it definitely hurts to think what my life could have been if I'd started earlier.

My earliest memories of being transgender is about 8. I started transitioning at 32yo and have been on hormones for 8 years. I, like you, look back and wish I would have done this sooner. I am so much better now than before.

Those who still deny the existence of transgender individuals are letting their bias show. They are closed to the very real medical realities this is not made up.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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That never happened. It's wild how people take things out of context and distort it to fit their narrative like it's some innate trait that's effortlessly executed, perhaps subconsciously though.

How many of you even have children? I've raised several. If you're worth a shit you'll do just about anything to protect your kids. That's why on this type of topic the left has its hands full. P&N is a liberal wasteland (I know I'm going to get flack for these posts) and you've had many people come forward and speak out against child abuse any damn way. I can tell not many of you ever got your ass spanked for being stupid and it shows.

In middle America if Democrats try to hang their hat on kid-trans shit Democrats are begging to lose elections. You're going to lose moderate Democrats, Independents and naturally Republicans. Not only would a lot of y'all run interference for child abusers it shows you're dumb as fuck, too. This extremely leftist bubble that's P&N does not correlate to an averaged out America.

Thinking you're something other than what you are is some insane shit and to nurture that sort of thing is abuse plain and simple. I know many of y'all don't agree, that's cool, I don't agree with many of you either. IMO, this is a wonderful bill, can't wait for more to sweep across the USA!

No, it was late night posting while tired and not reading the complete post.

I was wrong about that part, I’ll edit the post.
 
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sao123

Lifer
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The data doesn’t agree with you, and people who think like you are quite literally dying off.


Oh how easy it is to lie with statistics when you don't even consider people of the opposite opinion as America.
See I can do it too....
Statistic of the day, 100% of real Americans are Conservatives. Everyone else are Commie Soviets.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Oh how easy it is to lie with statistics when you don't even consider people of the opposite opinion as America.
See I can do it too....
Statistic of the day, 100% of real Americans are Conservatives. Everyone else are Commie Soviets.

Isn’t that your opinion though because it sure seems like that’s the opinion of right wing media.

Have you heard of the term projection?
 
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nakedfrog

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Oh how easy it is to lie with statistics when you don't even consider people of the opposite opinion as America.
See I can do it too....
Statistic of the day, 100% of real Americans are Conservatives. Everyone else are Commie Soviets.
Want to know how I know you didn't even click the link?
 

sao123

Lifer
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Isn’t that your opinion though because it sure seems like that’s the opinion of right wing media.

Have you heard of the term projection?

I don't consider them un-american. Just very misguided. The only people I consider UnAmerican are those who are here, but have not yet lawfully obtained or attempted to obtain legal naturalized citizenship.
 

kitkat22

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So, here's the chance. We have on this thread 2 transgender individuals. I am willing to share my experience with anyone willing to ask honest questions. I won't speak for nakedfrog but I bet we have similar themes growing up.

I am married, have 4 kids and live in suburbia. I am a doctor. I am part of a conservative church. I believe in God. I have experienced gender dysphoria as far back as I remember. Nearly ran away several times, cross dressed, got close to killing myself.

Thankfully, I have had a team of people who care for me including my wife and family. I am on proper, well researched treatment and it has made a world not difference in my life. My wife and kids have noticed a marked improvement in my wellbeing.

I have been called a freak, I have been called a pervert. None of which is true, and I am being judged before anyone has had a chance to hear my story or get to know me. Isn't there something in the Bible about "judge not lest ye be judged?"
 

Zor Prime

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Serious question since you're from WV. Do you also believe the Democrats have waged a war on coal and that is why the coal industry in WV has shit the bed?

Not really, I think most of the 'war on coal' stuff is bullshit, I've never observed a slowdown as the result of it anyway. It would be nice to get rid of coal when opportunity permits. If I thought Democrats were genuinely trying to get rid of coal altogether perhaps I wouldn't vote for Democrats because we still need it for a while longer -- for things like electricity plants so rates don't shoot up even quicker than they already do. It's important to distinguish and look between what's said and what's actually done.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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TBH, I've thought about starting a thread on that very notion, "Ask a trans person", in ATOT... obviously I haven't yet :p

Would be very enlightening for those of us who are open to being enlightened.

I have to say I don't understand much of the whole process and it is a strange endeavor to me - though I think that people who go through such a thing and know the things they will have to endure both mentally, physically and from the society around them - are certainly not doing it for fun, it has to be a very deep important thing to go through.

I have never met a trans person, that I know of - one girl I dated last year, her brother's wife's kid from her previous marriage has fully transitioned, I think they are in their thirties now. My current GF her boss's kid is going through some gender identity issues. They are young, I think not even in high school yet.
 

BlueWeasel

Lifer
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I have been called a freak, I have been called a pervert. None of which is true, and I am being judged before anyone has had a chance to hear my story or get to know me. Isn't there something in the Bible about "judge not lest ye be judged?"

That's a wonderful story. I'd love to know more about the timeline of everything.

The problem is those same judgmental people focus on verses in Leviticus to bash LBGTQ individuals. Yet they completely ignore the words of Jesus in Matthew 22:34-40.

I have a conservative friend whose college age son may be transitioning, but they have remained quiet about it. This is in the deep, deep South, so the ridicule and looks the son probably gets is unimaginable.
 
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Sunburn74

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I don't understand how it can be illegal in idaho to take your child to washington for a medical procedure? Like how can one state criminalize activities done in another state that are legal in that state?
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Never been a Republican a day in my life. I have a track record of being a registered Democrat -- not bragging, but it is what it is.

You sick fucks, all y'uns, y'alls, are some sick fucks to think it's perfectly healthy for someone to think they're something other than what they in fact are.

It's one thing to have preference of 'liking' the same gender. It's an entirely other thing to think you're something other than what you are, that you are not.

It's also another thing to partake in complete lunacy when you're an adult. Pandering to, catering to mental illness of a child and fostering that illness is goddam evil.

The only real problem with this bill is that it doesn't call for the death penalty.
Man, remember when woman thought they should be able to work outside the home like men? Why wouldn't those uppity bitches just accept how they were born.

That just lead to guys thinking it was okay to lay with other guys.

The only way you are a registered Democrat is if you were too lazy to change your party affiliation after Strom Thurmond kicked the bucket.

Since you didn't answer before, how do you feel about forcing preteen rape victim to carry to term and become an unwilling mothering before high school?
 
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sao123

Lifer
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So, here's the chance. We have on this thread 2 transgender individuals. I am willing to share my experience with anyone willing to ask honest questions. I won't speak for nakedfrog but I bet we have similar themes growing up.

I am married, have 4 kids and live in suburbia. I am a doctor. I am part of a conservative church. I believe in God. I have experienced gender dysphoria as far back as I remember. Nearly ran away several times, cross dressed, got close to killing myself.

Thankfully, I have had a team of people who care for me including my wife and family. I am on proper, well researched treatment and it has made a world not difference in my life. My wife and kids have noticed a marked improvement in my wellbeing.

I have been called a freak, I have been called a pervert. None of which is true, and I am being judged before anyone has had a chance to hear my story or get to know me. Isn't there something in the Bible about "judge not lest ye be judged?"

While I would applaud any person who seeks after God, there are things about the Trans and Homosexual lifestyle which are not reconcilable against the literal text of the bible.
However, this isn't about casting judgement on any single person, your fate, the final decision of heaven and hell is between God and you alone.

This is however, about setting policy and laws for the nation, our nation. As a Christian nation it is our duty to uphold the laws of God or face punishment and the destruction of the nation itself.

Time after time, passage after passage Judgement is pronounced on Nations that do evil in the sight of the Lord.
We will not simply stand by and watch leftist government after leftist government pass laws which declare that which is evil is now good and lawful.
 

Meghan54

Lifer
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While I would applaud any person who seeks after God, there are things about the Trans and Homosexual lifestyle which are not reconcilable against the literal text of the bible.
However, this isn't about casting judgement on any single person, your fate, the final decision of heaven and hell is between God and you alone.

This is however, about setting policy and laws for the nation, our nation. As a Christian nation it is our duty to uphold the laws of God or face punishment and the destruction of the nation itself.

Time after time, passage after passage Judgement is pronounced on Nations that do evil in the sight of the Lord.
We will not simply stand by and watch leftist government after leftist government pass laws which declare that which is evil is now good and lawful.
Yep…forcing your religious beliefs on everyone else. That’s all this shit’s about.

Must really grind your gears that the U.S. isn’t, never was and never shall be a Christian theocracy.
 

sandorski

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While I would applaud any person who seeks after God, there are things about the Trans and Homosexual lifestyle which are not reconcilable against the literal text of the bible.
However, this isn't about casting judgement on any single person, your fate, the final decision of heaven and hell is between God and you alone.

This is however, about setting policy and laws for the nation, our nation. As a Christian nation it is our duty to uphold the laws of God or face punishment and the destruction of the nation itself.

Time after time, passage after passage Judgement is pronounced on Nations that do evil in the sight of the Lord.
We will not simply stand by and watch leftist government after leftist government pass laws which declare that which is evil is now good and lawful.

Even Jesus didn't take the "Bible"(as it was) literally.

The US Founding Fathers specifically rejected 2 things. One was rejecting Monarchy/Autocracy and the other was rejecting the Church as part of government.

Stop fearing a non-existant Abuser.

Jesus gave 2 Laws and only 2.

What is "Evil"? I don't think you even know what it is.