Republican Senators engage Cruz control...

[DrDoug]

This made my day...lol! I'm surprised that they let him roll around loose on the desk of their ship for so long.

Nothing like hot Republican on Republican action to start the day out right! :biggrin:

 

[Mxylplyx]

I'm starting to develop just a tiny shred of hope that Republicans are moving to take control of their party from the extremists. Eliminate the Hastert rule, get a speaker who is willing to work with the other party on compromise legislation, and Washington is transformed overnight. I'm sure this hope is fleeting and unjustified though.

 

[michal1980]

I'm starting to develop just a tiny shred of hope that Republicans are moving to take control of their party from the extremists. Eliminate the Hastert rule, get a speaker who is willing to work with the other party on compromise legislation, and Washington is transformed overnight. I'm sure this hope is fleeting and unjustified though.

so become democrats and then the left is happy?

 

[DrDoug]

I'm starting to develop just a tiny shred of hope that Republicans are moving to take control of their party from the extremists. Eliminate the Hastert rule, get a speaker who is willing to work with the other party on compromise legislation, and Washington is transformed overnight. I'm sure this hope is fleeting and unjustified though.

But will that control be anything that will work to move our nation forward? Pretty much anything the Democrats are for the Republicans are reflexively against. Right now, if Democrats discovered that government could eliminate cancer by legislation, the Republicans would be against it. I can see McConnell pushing for a more moderate appearing party and using Cruz and their types to put on a show of "taking control" to appeal to the voters, but I don't really see them changing their stripes any time soon. They created this beast that is trying to consume them. How they deal with it is going to be interesting to see, that's for sure.

This and Boehner stepping down have the Teahadis in a frenzy. Erick Erickson is over at Redstate imploring his readers to contact their reps and ask them to vacate the Speaker's seat right now to stop Boehner from passing any final legislation that they are against.

Pop LOTS of popcorn, this is going to be one horror show to remember.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

so become democrats and then the left is happy?

Refusing to work with others to get shit done means you're a Republican? What would Reagan say?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

so become democrats and then the left is happy?

Enjoy your inescapable marginalization.

 

[dank69]

Enjoy your inescapable marginalization.

Those are some mighty big words to be using when talking to a three-year-old.

 

[Newell Steamer]

If the Republicans truly hope to return to true conservative ideology, they need to clean house of the pseudo-conservatives like Cruz.

The main problem; most Republicans are pseudo-conservatives.

Most of these pseudo-conservatives just want to uproot the current establishment, not because it is too big, but because it allows people in that they don't like. They want to be in charge and discriminate as they damn well please. They want big government, so people are forced to live as they see fit.

Cruz and similar slime needs to be flushed if they really do want to viewed in a better light.

 

[feralkid]

 

[DrDoug]

If Cruz got the nod from the right, I would hope that he would choose Paul Ryan as his running mate.

Grandpa/Eddie 2016: Let the Munsters loose!

 

[nickqt]

so become democrats and then the left is happy?

What would be nice is if the Republican party became conservative instead of Reactionary. That'd be a real nice start.

By the way, imbecile, 90% of the Democratic party would fit in nicely in conservative parties in the rest of the civilized world. Mostly because the rest of the civilized world is communist socialist atheist muslim sharia law tyranny Benghazi birth certificates ebola transcripts Agenda 21 Jade Helm.

Also freedom.

 

[Moonbeam]

What really seems to get to the Conservative Brain Defective is the growing recognition by the American people that they are a joke. The whole point of having a brain defect is to be able to deny the shame that actually motivates you. But we create what we fear and Conservative Brain Defectives fear humiliation. But when your fear is such that you are willing to destroy your country, it's time to ask, have you no shame and if the answer is no than people who do will destroy you for the evil you've become.

 

[michal1980]

What would be nice is if the Republican party became conservative instead of Reactionary. That'd be a real nice start.

By the way, imbecile, 90% of the Democratic party would fit in nicely in conservative parties in the rest of the civilized world. Mostly because the rest of the civilized world is communist socialist atheist muslim sharia law tyranny Benghazi birth certificates ebola transcripts Agenda 21 Jade Helm.

Also freedom.

Oh looks its 'everyone is doing it argument'.

q: If everyone walks off a cliff would a democrat follow?

a: Yes.

 

[sm625]

I'm starting to develop just a tiny shred of hope that Republicans are moving to take control of their party from the extremists. Eliminate the Hastert rule, get a speaker who is willing to work with the other party on compromise legislation, and Washington is transformed overnight. I'm sure this hope is fleeting and unjustified though.

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

Obamacare.
Medicare part D.
30 years of de facto Amnesty.
The power vacuum in Iraq.
Dodd Frank.
Sarbanes–Oxley.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

 

[Mxylplyx]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

Obamacare.
Medicare part D.
30 years of de facto Amnesty.
The power vacuum in Iraq.
Dodd Frank.
Sarbanes–Oxley.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

Obamacare was by no means a compromise. That was Democrats watering down the original bill enough to bring enough wary democrats and just a couple of Republicans onboard to get it across the finish line. It is my no means perfect, and is hamstrung by Republican efforts to kill it at all costs rather than followup legislation than makes it better. Conservatives are pissed off that their majorities have amounted to nothing, yet fail to realize that nothing is exactly what they will get when they refuse to accept anything less than everything. There is no "spirit of compromise" in the Republican caucus right now. The unanimous rejection of a hypothetical 10:1 budget cuts to tax increase package among the candidates in the 2012 election proves that. Until the elements of the party that choose to govern in this fashion are marginalized, any conservative imprint on policy will be minimal.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Cruz said he would again try to force a vote on Tuesday when the Senate votes to pass a spending bill that does not defund Planned Parenthood. In an unusual request meant to draw attention to his ongoing battle with Republican leadership, the Texas senator implored voters to tune in and see where their senators stand on Tuesday when he again requests a "sufficient second."

If they stand against Ted Cruz and most of the nonsense he stands for I might actually vote for one of them.

 

[fskimospy]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

You need to go learn your history.

Obamacare.

Zero Republicans voted for the ACA. How is unanimous opposition 'compromise'? It's literally the exact opposite of compromise.

Medicare part D.

That was not Republicans compromising with Democrats either. This was Republicans passing the bill they wanted to pass. They controlled all three branches of government, remember. If they didn't want Medicare Part D it wouldn't have happened.

30 years of de facto Amnesty.

Huh?

The power vacuum in Iraq.

What?

Dodd Frank.

Again, if I remember correctly literally zero Republicans voted for this. That is the opposite of compromise.

Sarbanes–Oxley.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

I think you should revisit your evidence, as you don't seem to have a strong grasp of what you're talking about.

 

[ivwshane]

Wow!

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

Obamacare. Zero republican votes in both houses.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll165.xml
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00396

Medicare part D. You realize this was a republican bill right? 9 dems voted for it in the house and 11 voted for it in the senate.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2003/h332
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/108-2003/s459

30 years of de facto Amnesty. Reagan's amnesty bill was a republican bill so if there was any compromising it was, again, done by the dems. (I cannot find the vote break down).

The power vacuum in Iraq. I don't know what that means but the Iraq war was a bi-partisan vote pushed by a republican president so again, the compromising would have been on the democratic side.

Dodd Frank. Zero yes votes by republicans in the house and 4 yes votes in the senate.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll968.xml
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=2&vote=00162

Sarbanes–Oxley. This was a bi-partisan bill that was passed under a republican president, republican house, and a senate that was pretty much evenly split. So at best we have a bill both parties wanted and at worse we have, yet again, another example of democrats compromising.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

Actually most of those bills were considered good things (Iraq being the exception but it's hard to blame our legislators when the admin outright lies and holds a bomb in the form of a mushroom cloud over your head).

So either you are completely ignorant of history, you don't know what compromising means, or you are a nut who doesn't know what's good for the country.

 

[woolfe9998]

Again, if I remember correctly literally zero Republicans voted for this. That is the opposite of compromise.

Three repub Senators voted for Dodd Frank. This was the GOP's shining moment of cooperation. It's all downhill from there.

 

[WHAMPOM]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

Obamacare.
Medicare part D.
30 years of de facto Amnesty.
The power vacuum in Iraq.
Dodd Frank.
Sarbanes–Oxley.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

Did not know people from Bazarro World post here, same as Earth but opposite.

 

[Jhhnn]

Wow!



Actually most of those bills were considered good things (Iraq being the exception but it's hard to blame our legislators when the admin outright lies and holds a bomb in the form of a mushroom cloud over your head).

So either you are completely ignorant of history, you don't know what compromising means, or you are a nut who doesn't know what's good for the country.

He has a deep & over riding emotional commitment to whatever he believes in & will defend it at all costs rather than questioning his own core values. That's righties in general.

How bad is it? The whole "power vacuum in Iraq" accusation is astounding outside of that bubble mentality. How do I know? There was no power vacuum prior to the US invasion.

So for that, he blames Democrats. He might just believe that Barney Frank caused the housing bubble, too.

 

[Mxylplyx]

This is a bunch of nonsense. Republicans have been compromising. Look at the results.

Obamacare.
Medicare part D.
30 years of de facto Amnesty.
The power vacuum in Iraq.
Dodd Frank.
Sarbanes–Oxley.

The list goes on and on. Bad legislation, or bad policy based in part on compromise. Mainly it is the lobbyists and the people whom both parties actually serve, but a small part was due to the spirit of compromise, because they just had to pass something. That needs to end.

I do believe you have just been pwned. Time for you to resort to the both sides do it argument and move along.

 

[nickqt]

Oh looks its 'everyone is doing it argument'.

q: If everyone walks off a cliff would a democrat follow?

a: Yes.

Wow.

q: Are you functionally illiterate, or just really bad at reading comprehension?

a: Both.

 

[Mike64]

What would be nice is if the Republican party became conservative instead of Reactionary. That'd be a real nice start.

By the way, imbecile, 90% of the Democratic party would fit in nicely in conservative parties in the rest of the civilized world. Mostly because the rest of the civilized world is communist socialist atheist muslim sharia law tyranny Benghazi birth certificates ebola transcripts Agenda 21 Jade Helm.

Also freedom.

:thumbsup: :'(

 

[Mike64]

Did not know people from Bazarro World post here, same as Earth but opposite.

You don't read this sub-forum very often, do you?^_^