DrDoug
Diamond Member
The walls come tumbin' down:
The Trump train may be heading for derailment! Get yer popcorn ready for the show! 😀
The Trump train may be heading for derailment! Get yer popcorn ready for the show! 😀
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Republican Representative Justin Amash backs impeachment of Trump
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From his tweet:
"America’s institutions depend on officials to uphold both the rules and spirit of our constitutional system even when to do so is personally inconvenient or yields a politically unfavorable outcome. Our Constitution is brilliant and awesome; it deserves a government to match it. "
"America’s institutions depend on officials to uphold both the rules and spirit of our constitutional system even when to do so is personally inconvenient or yields a politically unfavorable outcome. Our Constitution is brilliant and awesome; it deserves a government to match it. "
There's no place for that man in the tribalism of the modern GOP.
Another link:
"GOP congressman: 'President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct'"
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-congressman-apos-president-trump-212636570.html
"GOP congressman: 'President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct'"
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-congressman-apos-president-trump-212636570.html
bbhaag
Diamond Member
All politicians are self serving assholes and this guy is no different. From the Yahoo article "Additionally, he has also flirted with a third-party presidential bid as a Libertarian. In March, he told CNN that he had not entirely ruled out a Libertarian run for president.".
It wouldn't surprise me if this guy was just saying this to garner support for a bid for the presidency. You guys need to stop clucking about and giving each other thumbs up because a Republican said something you agree with. The guys still a politician and at the end of the day he will say or do anything that advances his career.
It wouldn't surprise me if this guy was just saying this to garner support for a bid for the presidency. You guys need to stop clucking about and giving each other thumbs up because a Republican said something you agree with. The guys still a politician and at the end of the day he will say or do anything that advances his career.
When you don't like the message, kill the messenger. I mean, Trump & Barr have no regard for the truth so why should anyone, right?
DrDoug
Diamond Member
Oh Hell NO, he gets no thumbs up from me! I'm just reporting what's up and that soon there may be a rush on popcorn. 😉 Amash is the head of the House Crazy Caucus... I mean Freedumb Caucus. As far as the libertarian part, it fits with his voting (against Patriot Act, against Humpty Trumpty's Wall, etc.) but I don't really GAF.
I'm rooting for mayhem and massive injuries to 'both sides' here.
IronWing
No Lifer
There is no political upside to this for this guy. He's going to get primaried now and the Dems will show him no love. Either he found a moral fiber somewhere in his sock drawer or he's an idiot.
DrDoug
Diamond Member
I'll take Idiot for $500, Alex. 😉
Everything a politician considers and acts on is a political calculation. You are correct that he has everything to lose, his district is solidly red. I'll give him a nod for saying what sounds right and sticking his neck out, probably only to get it chopped off if Combover Caligula gets away with it and is reelected in 2020. We can try to divine his motives or intelligence but what actually matters in this is his actions. He can be a snake in many other ways but he is right on this.
I hope he acts as a Judas goat for some of the weaker sheep, I mean Republican members of the House.
UberNeuman
Lifer
It's a start and long overdue.
bbhaag
Diamond Member
You might be correct but it has been my experience that no politician does anything without some sort of personal gain. I doubt he found morals and he appears to not be an idiot. Five Congressional terms proves that.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what his final objective is.
DrDoug
Diamond Member
No it doesn't... it's possible that the people who voted him into office are idiots who voted for an idiot. Either way, when it comes to the conservatives of today it's safe to say that there are a lot of idiots involved. Oh, and money. In his case it's probably money.
I actually liked him when I saw him in the Cohen hearings beacause he actually asked questions relevant to the investigation instead of rambling about book deals and movies like the other Republicans lackeys.
It's a start, but what I really want to see is some GOP senators calling for impeachment..
Trump Twitter attack in 3...2...1...???
"Ever since Spineless Justin Amash came to my Office, ranting like a dog that he needed my Help to become Speaker of the House (and I said NO!), all he has done is help Nancy and the many other haters of "Trump". A total disgrace. Must resign NOW!"
It's a start, but what I really want to see is some GOP senators calling for impeachment..
Trump Twitter attack in 3...2...1...???
"Ever since Spineless Justin Amash came to my Office, ranting like a dog that he needed my Help to become Speaker of the House (and I said NO!), all he has done is help Nancy and the many other haters of "Trump". A total disgrace. Must resign NOW!"
Jaskalas
Lifer
One Republican Congressman does not, an impeachment, make.
Where are the #nevertrump chickenhawks like Romney and Bush? Why don't they stand and do something for their country instead of their party? That'd be the day.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Impeachment is a given if it happens at all. It's the Senate that matters for removal and that's all we have at this point, especially with Barr as AG who has already shown himself as one willing to fall on his sword to protect Trump. Will Senate Republicans flip? It's possible some will but enough to remove? I think Mitch would see the world on fire first.
The willingness of the Senate to convict is immaterial to Barr's betrayal of his oath. He's sworn to support & defend the Constitution, not the person holding the office of President. Until that treachery is overcome there will be no impeachment. His actions are an extension of the obstruction of which Trump is accused.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
So you are saying the House won't impeach because... Barr?
Because they don't have the actual evidence that Barr is withholding. The report itself is hearsay.
Because they don't have the actual evidence that Barr is withholding. The report itself is hearsay.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
The process of impeachment is more than Barr or Mueller. There is a cumulative list of actions over Trump's term which are actionable. That Barr is blocking things becomes moot once impeachment is started as Barr must produce for the House as Nixon found out. If people are that afraid of Trump and Barr then we've already lost to the Imperial Presidency. Once 2020 comes about with no action then the precedent is set in stone because we deferred to Barr.
Barr already defies the legitimate power of Congress & only an order from the SCOTUS will change that, if then. I seriously doubt that the SCOTUS will side with Barr regardless of whether the word impeachment is employed or not.
Thump553
Lifer
I think the thread title drastically overstates the Congressman's position. My reading of his comments leads to the conclusion that he feels Trump CAN be impeached (based on the conduct set forth in the Mueller Report) not that he would support or vote for a conviction in the resulting impeachment.
Still the common sense analysis this Congressman did was an amazing breath of fresh air from the lockstep the GOP usually marches in.
But I do agree he will probably be lopped off at the knees in the next election. One or more teabaggers/Trump wackos will primary against him, Trump will send out a dozen of his twitty tweets and probably a juicy nickname or two. He has committed the ultimate sin by not being undyingly loyal to Trump.
Still the common sense analysis this Congressman did was an amazing breath of fresh air from the lockstep the GOP usually marches in.
But I do agree he will probably be lopped off at the knees in the next election. One or more teabaggers/Trump wackos will primary against him, Trump will send out a dozen of his twitty tweets and probably a juicy nickname or two. He has committed the ultimate sin by not being undyingly loyal to Trump.