Republican Party seems as divided, angry as ever

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dmcowen674

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http://news.yahoo.com/republican-party-seems-divided-angry-ever-140632093--election.html

Republican Party seems as divided, angry as ever



Infighting has penetrated the highest levels of the House GOP leadership. Long-standing geographic tensions have increased, pitting endangered Northeastern Republicans against their colleagues from other parts of the country.



Enraged tea party leaders are threatening to knock off dozens of Republicans who supported a measure that raised taxes on the nation's highest earners.

The Republican Party has struggled with internal divisions for the past few years. But these latest clashes have seemed especially public and vicious.
 
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trenchfoot

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You know that old saying about what doesn't kill you makes you stronger?

Well, for the Repubs of late, that old adage doesn't apply due to their apparently lapsing into a fit of self-flagellation after their losses in the last election.

For now I guess they're locked into a mode whereby what doesn't kill you makes you want to kill yourself ever more, as it seems the lesson they learned from their losses is they need to go even further right and be more obstructive and suppressive than ever to win the next round of elections.

Can't wait for that party to grow out of it and put up some candidates that care more for the country as a whole rather than only the rich. Their working class majority need to look out for their own best interests than the interests of those who subjugate them.
 
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techs

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The Tea Party counts every incumbent defeated by one of their candidates in a primary as a win. Even when they lose the general election.
They seem to have a goal of being the majority of the Republican party, no matter how small they have to make the Republican party.
 
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Silver Prime

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Chuck norris said "He wants to pay more higher taxes" to help out the milldle an poor class...seen on the news a few weeks ago.

Common agreements tend to agree that when the middle class is doing good lower "and" higher class profit from it.
 
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Silver Prime

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Most republicans is on a common note to being the more wealthy part of united states, they are intitled to a choice in not sharing there money,=part of being in the united states freedom of choice, most worked hard for it too....but not agreeing with helping out the lower class makes them look like a bunch of greedy old pricks.

An they dont agree with Chuck norris...lol
 
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nehalem256

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I am confused. Didn't Democrats spend the last 4 years complaining that the Republicans were united in their opposition to Obama?
 
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Silver Prime

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nehalem256 said:
I am confused. Didn't Democrats spend the last 4 years complaining that the Republicans were united in their opposition to Obama?
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Yeah, than mitt romney lost...an republicans are now running in circles again, most are coming into agreements, but then you still have old rich white assholes who think they need money to get into heavan.
 
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Screech

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I find that we are living in fascinatingly historic times in which it is easier to negotiate agreements with the palestinians than the republicans.

Fascinating.
 
rudder

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Sure they are in disarray. The democrat party is a powerhouse. The democrats know what gets them re-elected... spending money on steroids. Republicans realize this and some want in that game for political survival... some in congress who can be called truer republicans are worried about the fiscal abyss to which this country is headed for.

The democrats know their electorate are happy now that the evil rich people have to pay more in taxes... but as we all know... nothing was done to fix the most serious issues facing this country in this last 'fix' that was touted by obama.

It does no good to be in congress if you don't have the votes needed to make serious change occur... so there is infighting.
 
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Chris A

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rudder said:
Sure they are in disarray. The democrat party is a powerhouse. The democrats know what gets them re-elected... spending money on steroids. Republicans realize this and some want in that game for political survival... some in congress who can be called truer republicans are worried about the fiscal abyss to which this country is headed for.

The democrats know their electorate are happy now that the evil rich people have to pay more in taxes... but as we all know... nothing was done to fix the most serious issues facing this country in this last 'fix' that was touted by obama.

It does no good to be in congress if you don't have the votes needed to make serious change occur... so there is infighting.
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Clearly posted!
 
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michal1980

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Screech said:
I find that we are living in fascinatingly historic times in which it is easier to negotiate agreements with the palestinians than the republicans.

Fascinating.
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maybe if the liberal/communist/socialist party had reasonable demands they could be negotiated with.

But as of right now, the left is so far wacko there's no point.
 
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Screech

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michal1980 said:
maybe if the liberal/communist/socialist party had reasonable demands they could be negotiated with.

But as of right now, the left is so far wacko there's no point.
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I agree, "Don't assassinate the world economy because you want to balance the budget for the first time in the last 10 years in the middle of the worst recession since the great depression now that a democrat is president after running up absurd deficits that helped get us to this shitty financial situation in the first place" is absolutely ridiculous. Those damn democrats!

Now to be fair, I don't fault the republicans completely -- the democrats have been pretty bad as well. I support cuts to social security and other programs like that and as such would never win on a democratic ticket ;) But anyone with any knowledge of the history of this nation's finances can see that the fiscal catastrophe is a republican -engineered artifact that they created because Obama was elected. How many times did they threaten to not raise the debt ceiling from 2000-2008? Hmm, how strange.

edit: the thing is, the democrats aren't the ones holding the nation (and world) hostage and making demands. The republicans are, but have yet to actually make a coherent set of demands for what they want, which is a large part of how we got here.

edit 2: Ironically, simply letting the complete fiscal cliff pass probably was the first step toward actually balancing the budget, but apparently nobody wanted that. Also very interesting...
 
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michal1980

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Screech said:
I agree, "Don't assassinate the world economy because you want to balance the budget for the first time in the last 10 years in the middle of the worst recession since the great depression now that a democrat is president after running up absurd deficits that helped get us to this shitty financial situation in the first place" is absolutely ridiculous. Those damn democrats!

Now to be fair, I don't fault the republicans completely -- the democrats have been pretty bad as well. I support cuts to social security and other programs like that and as such would never win on a democratic ticket ;) But anyone with any knowledge of the history of this nation's finances can see that the fiscal catastrophe is a republican -engineered artifact that they created because Obama was elected. How many times did they threaten to not raise the debt ceiling from 2000-2008? Hmm, how strange.

edit: the thing is, the democrats aren't the ones holding the nation (and world) hostage and making demands. The republicans are, but have yet to actually make a coherent set of demands for what they want, which is a large part of how we got here.

edit 2: Ironically, simply letting the complete fiscal cliff pass probably was the first step toward actually balancing the budget, but apparently nobody wanted that. Also very interesting...
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Ok Bush is gone. The democrat's have been in power for 6+ years now between the congress and whitehouse.

Whats their plan for fixing the debt? That's right theres none. Outside of the same old 'tax the rich'. Which we already did and that barely made a dent.

Heres a truth. Government must be cut to balance the budget. What democrat is ready to do that?

that's right their isn't. They can't even cut something as small as big bird, how are they going to cut something as big as medicare/ss?
 
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Charles Kozierok

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As most liberals are, they expect the government to be aware for them.
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Not all liberals are clueless just because dmcowen674 is.

Just as not all right-wingers are incapable of understanding the difference between an individual and a group, just because you are.
 
dank69

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CharlesKozierok said:
Not all liberals are clueless just because dmcowen674 is.

Just as not all right-wingers are incapable of understanding the difference between an individual and a group, just because you are.
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Do libertopian paulbots count as right wing? :hmm:
 
Jaskalas

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rudder said:
It does no good to be in congress if you don't have the votes needed to make serious change occur... so there is infighting.
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The fighting will stop when they consolidate their numbers in particular states, and then secede. There is no path forward from the federal gov.
 
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