Republican bill lets ISPs sell your web history to advertisers!

[theeedude]

https://www.extremetech.com/internet/245878-new-gop-bill-seeks-let-isps-sell-web-history-advertisers

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) have introduced Congressional Review Act resolutions that would overturn the FCC’s privacy rules for ISPs. The resolutions will allow ISPs to sell the web histories of their customers to whatever “trusted partner” they wish.

I guess compared to throwing 24M people off health insurance, it's small potatoes, but still, very creepy.

 

[ivwshane]

Are they going to give me free or cheaper service because of it? Does this mean that users have no privacy rights?

 

[dank69]

I think this is great and exactly what America wanted.

 

[Fern]

? Seems to me that's already been going on.

Fern

 

[jackstar7]

Elections have consequences.

 

[MrPickins]

I was wondering when this would crop up on P&N. I was going to create my own thread soon if it didn't.

More reading:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...l-would-let-isps-sell-your-web-browsing-data/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rate-impending-death-of-online-privacy-rules/


From the first link:

Flake's resolution would prevent all of those requirements from being implemented. He said that this "is the first step toward restoring the [Federal Trade Commission's] light-touch, consumer-friendly approach."

How can they even pretend that this is consumer friendly?!?

Are they going to give me free or cheaper service because of it? Does this mean that users have no privacy rights?

 

[JSt0rm]

grabem' by the pussy!

 

[LPCTech]

Republican voters are OK with this.
They are also OK with:

Sexual Assault
Blatantly Lying
Collusion with enemies of America
Racism
Sexism
Bullying(unless its them)
Getting screwed financially as long as the non-white non-males are unhappy.
Threatening America's security as long as the non-white non-males are unhappy.
Police murdering basically anyone, including white people, because you shouldn't have been doing "that"(all crimes are capitol).
Not knowing the finances for the last 10 years of their OWN political candidate, cuz he hates who we hate so it doesnt matter!

But Bill Clinton cheated on his wife(who you hate?) and lied about that. So he is the worst of all, ever. Even though many many republicans have and continue to do way way worse things All the time. But that is ok. They hate who we hate.

 

[cliftonite]

? Seems to me that's already been going on.

Fern

THen why are they pursuing this bill?

 

[Fern]

THen why are they pursuing this bill?

I'm not arguing. I'm just saying I thought all of our consumer data has been up for sale since, like, forever.

Also, I'm opposed to that (and this bill). W(ho)TF are these congress people working for? This is a benefit to their constituents? I don't think so.

Fern

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm pretty sure everyone's T&C's allow this. Your browser certainly does this.

*I'm not an expert correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm pretty sure everyone's T&C's allow this. Your browser certainly does this.

*I'm not an expert correct me if I'm wrong.

Likely true. The proposed rule change would increase internet privacy. It's hard to see Flake's efforts as being driven by anything other than campaign contributions. He's a Republican, right? Just follow the money.

 

[highland145]

Every company sells your information....duh.

The example given to me by my equifax rep...10 years ago...was: You order a pizza, you give your name/address/phone#. We compile it and sell it to our customers for 25 cents.

Really, I pay 25 cents for 1 search of your compiled information.

Deadbeats aren't as appreciative of the service as I am.

 

[Jhhnn]

Every company sells your information....duh.

The example given to me by my equifax rep...10 years ago...was: You order a pizza, you give your name/address/phone#. We compile it and sell it to our customers for 25 cents.

Really, I pay 25 cents for 1 search of your compiled information.

Deadbeats aren't as appreciative of the service as I am.

Purchasing & payment history is obviously different from browsing history.

 

[highland145]

Well, you might be right in your assumption and desire but the facts show that you're wrong.

I'm not being confrontational about it (imagine that) , but your data has value.

 

[brycejones]

Trumpopulism in action because corporations are people to.

 

[highland145]

Trumpopulism in action because corporations are people to.

Wasn't that 1900 or so?

 

[HomerJS]

Every company sells your information....duh.

The example given to me by my equifax rep...10 years ago...was: You order a pizza, you give your name/address/phone#. We compile it and sell it to our customers for 25 cents.

Really, I pay 25 cents for 1 search of your compiled information.

Deadbeats aren't as appreciative of the service as I am.

Would you be ok with auto manufacturers selling your black box info which shows everywhere you drive? I think that's the closest analogy.

 

[TheVrolok]

I'm not arguing. I'm just saying I thought all of our consumer data has been up for sale since, like, forever.

Also, I'm opposed to that (and this bill). W(ho)TF are these congress people working for? This is a benefit to their constituents? I don't think so.

Fern

Well, corporations are people, too, and by extension constituents.

 

[zinfamous]

damn, this means I get way more penis pill spam.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

damn, this means I get way more penis pill spam.

Uh oh.... am I going to start getting midget spam then?

 

[mect]

I'm not arguing. I'm just saying I thought all of our consumer data has been up for sale since, like, forever.

Also, I'm opposed to that (and this bill). W(ho)TF are these congress people working for? This is a benefit to their constituents? I don't think so.

Fern

My understanding is that currently ISPs aren't allowed to sell browsing history. Websites that you provide personal information to on the otherhand may do so. Sites like facebook, google, retail sites, etc. I think this would add that ability to ISPs, who would have everything you do online, not just your activity on specific sites. I'm not an expert though, so its definitely possible that I'm wrong here.

 

[zinfamous]

Uh oh.... am I going to start getting midget spam then?

Count on it.

Hey, I've noticed 3 new offers in my spam box for state-of-the-art false limb services. That's new. :hmm:

 

[ch33zw1z]

Afaik, websites sell you browsing preferences, ISP'S dont.

For those of us using NoScript, you know the deal

 

[pauldun170]

If I'm investigating or snooping on citizens, does this mean I no linger need a warrant to view those records?
I can just obtain those records through a third party since its now "public information"

Awesome

If I'm working with RNC and I want to get detailed info on who visits sites maintained on the "those guys list" we can not start mapping out all sort of crap of where....wait what's that noise?
Its the sound of thousands of government officials, marketing douches and research folks creaming their pants.

In the case below, instead of dealing with warrants they can just purchase data from local ISP's
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...-who-searched-a-fraud-victims-name-on-google/