Reports of cheating jump at Duke and UNC after students are asked to rat on each other

[NFS4]

http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030902/APN/309020539&cachetime=5

 

[CanOWorms]

I went to a school with a tradition of having an honor code... there was a ceremony where you had to dress up and you got to sign the class honor code... it seemed like a big deal with the university.

 

[Tab]

They're hoping the ethics lessons learned now will guide their students' behavior well after college.

I am just about died from laughing.

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Some surveys show up to 97 percent of high school students admitted to cheating in some form

That seems like a pretty conservative estimate to me

 

[hdeck]

ratting out your fellow classmates sucks, unless you just don't like them.

 

[conjur]

I'm sure they'll blame it all on teh intArw3b.

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Oh, I love this one:

"And it's really a wonderful culture to learn in."

And the article goes on to explain....

This fall, students are bound by a new requirement to turn in their classmates if they see them cheating.

Wow, being forced to rat on my friends... sounds really wonderful to me!!

Don't get me wrong, I don't like cheating. However, I went to a school with an honor code which was pretty strictly enforced. All that it served was to curtail the cheating so that it only happened between good friends. People will always cheat, and people will always get away with it.

If you do not have your own "honor code", then you are going to end up with a peice of paper that took you four years to get, but means absolutely nothing. If you decide to cheat, especially in college, then its your funeral. The person who cheated will always be worse off then the person who actually did the work. Especially when it comes to tests / large projects. I laugh at people in college who feel the need to cheat.

 

[UNCjigga]

Yeah, in one of my old roommate's computer science classes (at Carolina) 3/4 of the class was failed for collaborating on a take-home final. My roommate got nailed in that one...he was the one helping everyone else with their code, and got nailed because his particular grammar/spelling mistakes made it through to everyone's algorithms.

 

[Hammer]

[pacino]No, I'm just gettin' warmed up! i don't know who went to this place, William Howard Taft, William Jennings Bryan, William Tell, whoever. Their spirit is dead, if they ever had one; it's gone. Your building a ratship here, a vessel for sea-goin' snitches, and if you think you're preparing these minnows for manhood, you'd better think again! Because I say you are killing the very spirit this institution proclaims it instill! What a sham! What kind of a show are you guys putting on today?[/pacino]

 

[Aharami]

cheating doesnt pay

<-- learned the hard way

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Aharami
cheating doesnt pay

<-- learned the hard way

Care to explain? :evil:

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Some surveys show up to 97 percent of high school students admitted to cheating in some form

That seems like a pretty conservative estimate to me

It clearly shows that a full 3% are either lying or didn't care enough about their grades to bother cheating. A friend of mine devised an intricate scroll system inside his pen that would move a cheat sheet up and down in a clear window. Worked like a charm, in 4 years he used it for every test and never got caught.

 

[Amorphus]

you know those clicky pens that you get at job fairs that have a clear window, and the message scrolls every time you click the pen? you can take the pen apart and replace the piece of paper that has the slogans and stuff on it...

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Some surveys show up to 97 percent of high school students admitted to cheating in some form

That seems like a pretty conservative estimate to me

It clearly shows that a full 3% are either lying or didn't care enough about their grades to bother cheating. A friend of mine devised an intricate scroll system inside his pen that would move a cheat sheet up and down in a clear window. Worked like a charm, in 4 years he used it for every test and never got caught.

:Q:Q:Q

I'm simply stunned

 

[oreagan]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I went to a school with a tradition of having an honor code... there was a ceremony where you had to dress up and you got to sign the class honor code... it seemed like a big deal with the university.

You sound like went to The University...if so, going there myself, and I agree. People simply don't cheat, or lie, or steal here. There was a decent size article about the theft/misplacement of a walkman in the fitness center. Got to love the Community of Trust.

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
cheating doesnt pay

<-- learned the hard way

Care to explain? :evil:

I'm curious too

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Some surveys show up to 97 percent of high school students admitted to cheating in some form

That seems like a pretty conservative estimate to me

It clearly shows that a full 3% are either lying or didn't care enough about their grades to bother cheating. A friend of mine devised an intricate scroll system inside his pen that would move a cheat sheet up and down in a clear window. Worked like a charm, in 4 years he used it for every test and never got caught.

or they're good students... sorry, but i know quite a few people that made it through HS without cheating, who did care about their grades but studied hard enough that they didn't need to cheat.

 

[Spac3d]

Good. I hate all of the people that I know who go there.

 

[Ranger X]

Bunch of people cheat. People talk during midterms and finals which pisses me off.

 

[EyeMWing]

Heh. My english teacher is totally oblivious to cheating. People outright go "move your hand" and such. I was the only one who actually read our summer reading books - so when they gave us the test on it, it was literally one huge chain of 23 people copying off me. It was funny as hell. "Well - all but one of you all scored a 98. So obviously you all read the book and one question was poorly worded." What actually happened was that I intentionally fuxed one and fixed it before I handed it in so I couldn't be implicated.

 

[Desslok]

Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Yeah, in one of my old roommate's computer science classes (at Carolina) 3/4 of the class was failed for collaborating on a take-home final. My roommate got nailed in that one...he was the one helping everyone else with their code, and got nailed because his particular grammar/spelling mistakes made it through to everyone's algorithms.

HAHAHAHAHA that is to funny. Guess they didn't want to bother with running a spell check on it.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Heh. My english teacher is totally oblivious to cheating. People outright go "move your hand" and such. I was the only one who actually read our summer reading books - so when they gave us the test on it, it was literally one huge chain of 23 people copying off me. It was funny as hell. "Well - all but one of you all scored a 98. So obviously you all read the book and one question was poorly worded." What actually happened was that I intentionally fuxed one and fixed it before I handed it in so I couldn't be implicated.

Smart guy.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: oreagan

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I went to a school with a tradition of having an honor code... there was a ceremony where you had to dress up and you got to sign the class honor code... it seemed like a big deal with the university.

You sound like went to The University...

Which University?

 

[Ness]

I think it's funny how they put such an emphasis on this. Who cares about the piece of paper you get at the end of spending all that money. If you don't learn, then you're screwed everytime you try to get a job anyway. Let them cheat. Then let them crash and burn if they get a job they can't do... and let themhave wasted tens of thousands of dollars to cheat. Getting ratted out suddenly doesn't sound like that harsh of a penalty anymore, huh?

 

[lukatmyshu]

I once got nailed for cheating in class .... on homework. On one assignment. On one question in that assignment. On part a of an a through e question. And for that I got an automatic D in the class (I had a fairly solid A before that). Needless to say I NEVER EVER even THINK about cheating in the slightest way now.