Report: Iraq insurgency pays its own way

DealMonkey

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Well, more bad news regarding Iraq. Seems that much of our efforts to cut off the financial support of terrorism world-wide has now been cancelled out as the Iraqi insurgency has found numerous ways to raise funds. Substantial funds. $70 million to $200 million per year.

Don't forget too that poppy harvests in Afghanistan are at record levels, which means that terrorist groups like the Taliban (and possibly AQ) can also raise hundreds of millions in illicit drug money without even breaking a sweat.

Do I need to connect the dots for anyone? Or is the message perfectly clear?

Report: Iraq insurgency pays its own way

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The insurgency in Iraq is financially self-sustaining, pulling in millions of dollars a year from illegal activities and ransom payments, The New York Times reported on its Web site Saturday.

The White House refused to confirm the existence of the classified report upon which the Times said it based its article.

The Times reported that groups responsible for insurgent and terrorist attacks raise $70 million to $200 million a year. As much as half of that comes from oil smuggling and other criminal activity such as counterfeiting, while as much as $36 million annually comes from ransoms paid by foreign governments in exchange for the release of kidnap victims. (Watch rockets launch from Sadr City Video)

The Times said the report was completed in June by an interagency government working group investigating the financing of insurgent groups in Iraq. The group's existence was confirmed to the Times by a Bush administration official, the newspaper reported. The newspaper said it obtained the report from American officials in Iraq.

The report concludes that the assets of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and his regime are no longer a significant source of funding for insurgent groups, at least partly because a U.S.-led international effort has frozen a large portion of those assets.

White House spokesman Alex Conant told CNN in a written statement he would not comment on classified documents. But, he said, "Our work with the Iraqi government to deter and disrupt illicit and terrorist financing is ongoing and goes hand-in-hand with the need to establish law and order in Iraq. This is an ongoing effort that brings with it challenges unique to the situation in Iraq -- especially given the use of a variety of practices [including kidnapping] to raise money."

The government, Conant said, "has been engaged in an unprecedented effort to cut off the funding of terrorism around the world since 9/11, with great disruptive effect. It is now harder, costlier and riskier for al Qaeda and like-minded terrorists to raise and move money around the world."

While he would not directly confirm the existence of the interagency group, Conant said the National Security Council coordinates U.S. efforts to address issues related to insurgent financing. "Our efforts in Iraq are led by CENTCOM and Treasury, with close participation and assistance from other departments and agencies."

The Times quoted several security and intelligence consultants who said the report's vagueness underscores how little the American intelligence community knows about Iraq's insurgency groups.

As usual, the White House has its head firmly buried in the sand regarding the report. Good luck with the whole denying reality thing, gentleman! Hope that works out for you.
 

daniel49

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according to same story on msnbc.com they already are....mostly from stolen oil revenues and ransoms paid by govts. like france and italy.
 

Lemon law

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This also applies to the militias---basically local strong man types who are able to say---I will protect you if you will join me. Which is simply feudalism in action. While killing the
opposition may feed the get them before they get you, it still does not pay the bills---so anything that brings in cash becomes fair game---and is also the answer for making a small
local strong man into a big local strongman.

I was watching the talking heads today---with one person making the flat statement that there are some 128 local militias in Baghdad alone---and while Al Sadr is the best known, you also have to realize that these local militias must sustain themselves over time to become institutions. And some must inevitable fall by the wayside---and the questions of finances will be one of the keys to survival. With the ends justifying the means.

Only a strong Iraqi central government will end the power of the militias---but when someone like Al Maliki is pee his pants scared to even allow the US to confront Al Sadr, you have to understand the elected central government of Iraq is just a figment of the imagination---existing inside of the green zone---and a non-reality everywhere else. But the seeds of chaos
have been planted and are thriving in Iraq---and like kudzu---how far it spreads is anyones guess.---with the US army unable to say---we will protect you.
 

DealMonkey

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Well, it's not so dissimilar here in the U.S., is it not? The politician with the biggest war chest of cash, generally wins. Not always, but it's a big plus.
 

sandorski

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Good News: they aren't a bunch of Freeloading Hippies!
Bad news: We'd be better off if they were!

;)
 

Lemon law

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Sadly Sandorski, you somewhat hit the nail on the head---they are not freeloading hippies---they are on a mission from God---just like GWB&co.
Real strange how God seems to permit various types from finding their mission is also the mission that featherers their own nests.
 

sandmanwake

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Sadly Sandorski, you somewhat hit the nail on the head---they are not freeloading hippies---they are on a mission from God---just like GWB&co.
Real strange how God seems to permit various types from finding their mission is also the mission that featherers their own nests.


It's quite simple really. The side that wins has the better God.