Report: Humans, chimps should be in same genus

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Chimpanzees are more closely related to people than to gorillas or monkeys and probably should be included in the human branch of the family tree, a research team says.

Currently, humans are alone in the genus Homo. But Goodman argues, "We humans appear as only slightly remodeled chimpanzee-like apes." He says humans and chimps share 99.4 percent of their DNA, the molecule that codes for life.
 

LunarRay

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What give us the right to conclude that the chimp is close but, subordinate. I think the chimp may be the next evolutioniary move from humanhood.
I am still LOL over another thread where someone said Mr and Mrs Moonbeam were gonna have a baby moon... I can't seem to get over that one..

What proof do you have that the chimp is not the next step up from humans?
 

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Originally posted by: HJD1
What give us the right to conclude that the chimp is close but, subordinate. I think the chimp may be the next evolutioniary move from humanhood.
I am still LOL over another thread where someone said Mr and Mrs Moonbeam were gonna have a baby moon... I can't seem to get over that one..

What proof do you have that the chimp is not the next step up from humans?

Well, they don't post on OT.. no wait...
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: HJD1
What give us the right to conclude that the chimp is close but, subordinate. I think the chimp may be the next evolutioniary move from humanhood.
I am still LOL over another thread where someone said Mr and Mrs Moonbeam were gonna have a baby moon... I can't seem to get over that one..

What proof do you have that the chimp is not the next step up from humans?

Well, they don't post on OT.. no wait...

How do you shorten rolling on the floor LOL.. it must be ROTFLOL

:D
 

Fencer128

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Originally posted by: HJD1
What give us the right to conclude that the chimp is close but, subordinate. I think the chimp may be the next evolutioniary move from humanhood.
I am still LOL over another thread where someone said Mr and Mrs Moonbeam were gonna have a baby moon... I can't seem to get over that one..

What proof do you have that the chimp is not the next step up from humans?

Just in case you really did want an answer to that....

If you imagine the evolution of species as a tree (like a family tree). The chimpanzee species is coming off one branch of the homo genus tree as humans are coming off another. It is not possible to evolve "backwards" so there is no way a human will ever give birth to a chimp or a chimp give birth to a human baby. They've long ago taken different roads that will never meet.

(You probably just wanted a joke and didn't need to hear that!)

Cheers,

Andy
 

Alistar7

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did you hear about the MULE that gave birth to a foal recently?


glad someone enjoyed my moon baby analogy, hopefully moon himself was not offended as that was not my intention.
 

Fencer128

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
did you hear about the MULE that gave birth to a foal recently?


glad someone enjoyed my moon baby analogy, hopefully moon himself was not offended as that was not my intention.

Yes, I heard about that one - but not any details. That is a freaky thing but it doesn't cover the same ground as moving from one species to another.

Cheers,

Andy
 

Alistar7

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no, just something thought to be impossible.


when will man evolve again? Now that we have grown such an enormous brain is there any chance we will evolve to the point that we actually use the whole thing?
 

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
no, just something thought to be impossible.


when will man evolve again? Now that we have grown such an enormous brain is there any chance we will evolve to the point that we actually use the whole thing?

I think maybe we use a lot more than we think - it's just that brain science nowadays is at the level of weather forecasting 500 years ago!

Cheers,

Andy
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Alistar7
no, just something thought to be impossible.


when will man evolve again? Now that we have grown such an enormous brain is there any chance we will evolve to the point that we actually use the whole thing?

I think maybe we use a lot more than we think - it's just that brain science nowadays is at the level of weather forecasting 500 years ago!

Cheers,

Andy

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They can measure and display all brain activity right now, we use very little.

Maybe those who show signs of possible clairvoyance and other talents are the beginning of the next step of man's evolution.

 

Fencer128

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Alistar7
no, just something thought to be impossible.


when will man evolve again? Now that we have grown such an enormous brain is there any chance we will evolve to the point that we actually use the whole thing?

I think maybe we use a lot more than we think - it's just that brain science nowadays is at the level of weather forecasting 500 years ago!

Cheers,

Andy

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They can measure and display all brain activity right now, we use very little.

Maybe those who show signs of possible clairvoyance and other talents are the beginning of the next step of man's evolution.

They can measure what they know of. I tend to think that nature's very good at getting rid of what they don't need. Given that it is possible that the brain scientists don't know enough about the function of the brain to accurately decide if what isn't being used is actually useful or not.

Cheers,

Andy
 

Alistar7

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so you are suggesting the brain processes information or works at a level that is unknown to modern science right now? The brain activity we can measure is not the only type happening?
 

Alistar7

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You are in Britian, considering how many brains you guys basically stole from dead people for research you might have a leg up on this area...
 

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If by moon you meant me, my feelings are very tender and I easily cry at just about anything. Your comment, however, for some reason was quite ok. D: I've known I'm a chimp from the time I was squatting in the Merced river brushing my teeth and looking at half dome., lo so many years ago.
 

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
so you are suggesting the brain processes information or works at a level that is unknown to modern science right now? The brain activity we can measure is not the only type happening?

The problem is the definition of "used". Something like 90% of our brains are devoted to memory storage. The neurons and paths used in that storage are rarely accessed unless you are thinking about previous events and memories. The people that advocate that we use very little of our brains are not supported by acurate peer reviewed and accepted science. Common sense dictates that a larger brain would not evolve without a direct use for that extra matter. Every additional ounce of brain matter consumes calories just existing. So in summary all of our brains have a purpose and will be accessed and used during a lifetime, some people just narrowly define "use" to support agenda's they may have.