"Report" Factually Wrong

[Stewox]

:whiste:

According to the NY State Department of Health a whopping TWO out of 20 people infected during a measles outbreak were children whose parents had opted not to vaccinate. This, of course, means that 18 of the people infected WERE vaccinated.

The mainstream media still somehow blames the outbreak on a decline in vaccinations.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/new-york-measles-outbreak-90-vaccinated_032014


Thread closed and OP warned not to spread disinformation, no matter how inadvertently.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[waggy]

hmm. i am hesitant to believe anything by the dailysheeple...

 

[brycejones]

hmm. i am hesitant to believe anything by the dailysheeple...

I'm sure it is a very objective site with a name like that........

 

[Jimzz]

I guess someone does not understand heard immunity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

There will always be people that get vaccinated but it does not work as well in them to offer full protection. The problem is when enough people do not get vaccinated it makes those people even more at risk.

But yes less people getting vaccinated and the rate of disease going up has no correlation at all. :whiste:

"From 2005 to 2012-2013, the rate at which parents have opted for the waiver nearly doubled, from 4.2 percent to 7.83 percent."



EDIT:

Yep the 2 out of 20 is BS...

http://pix11.com/2014/03/31/amid-measles-outbreak-vaccination-rates-low-in-some-private-schools/
"According to the New York City Department of Health, there are 21 cases measles case total now. 10 pediatric cases and 11 adult cases. The cases range from 3 months to 63 years old. A majority of the children were too young to be vaccinated or within the 12- to 15-month window when vaccination is recommended."

So more than 2 did not have the vaccination.

 

[AViking]

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6236a5.htm

This the right outbreak? Let me quote:

A total of 58 cases* were identified, including six generations of measles infection in two neighborhoods of the borough of Brooklyn. All cases were in members of the orthodox Jewish community. No case was identified in a person who had documented measles vaccination at the time of exposure; 12 (21%) of the cases were in infants too young (aged <12 months) for routine immunization with measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.

 

[Paratus]

 

[AViking]

http://pediatrics.about.com/od/measles/a/measles-outbreaks.htm

Quite frankly it's articles like the one the OP listed that lead to more stupidity in the American public. Global public even.

 

[allisolm]

There's a good reason not to trust the article from the daily sheeple. It is true that 2 of the infected were children whose parents had opted out of the vaccination, but it is definitely NOT true that the other 18 WERE vaccinated.

According to this article there were 20 cases (I saw a bit later one that said 21 here) in all in the outbreak.

Of these 11 were adults and only 3 of them could prove vaccination. Of the 9 children 7 were too young to be vaccinated (or still within the age window for the vaccination.) The remaining 2 children's parents had opted out of the vaccinations.

edit: Jimzz beat me to it while I was composing this. Note to self: learn to type faster.

 

[Texashiker]

Posting in a vaccine thread,

But, but but,,,, the kids were vaccinated. Oh the outrage.

The rabid pro-vaccine crowd is probably foaming at the mouth.




Vaccines have contributed more to public than probably any other advancement besides sewage, clean water and handsoap.

But there is no reason to put blind faith into vaccines either.

Vaccines are not 100% effective and should not be treated as such.

 

[manimal]

this

I am growing somewhat concerned for OP. Does anyone know a good therapist for OP? I would chip in some cash via paypal for his first visit. Now If I could televise it I would agree to pay for the whole thing.

 

[dank69]

:whiste:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/new-york-measles-outbreak-90-vaccinated_032014

Funny, in your quest to not be a sheep you blindly take information from that site and infowars as gospel truth. The people that create and run those sites are laughing at your gullibility.

 

[JEDIYoda]

so where is the OP of this thread...cowering under his parents bed, because he does not understand the subject matter...

 

[brycejones]

so where is the OP of this thread...cowering under his parents bed, because he does not understand the subject matter...

Yeah this thread didn't go the way he expected it to. It will be interesting to see he is response.

Probably something along the lines that the health department reports are fake and the government is suppressing the truth.

 

[Texashiker]

the government is suppressing the truth.

They probably are. The government does not want people asking questions.

Here, take this shot, and don't ask how effective it is supposed to be.

The drug companies will be pissed if their profits drop. Could we imagine the horror if a company is held responsible for a faulty product.

 

[fskimospy]

Isn't it amazing that the people who believe the most insane and most easily disproven things somehow are always the ones that think the rest of us are blind sheep?

 

[Newell Steamer]

Vaccinations: the government shackles we place on our children,.. before they have choice to decide if they want to die of the black plague or not.

What war did we lose??

 

[Texashiker]

Isn't it amazing that the people who believe the most insane and most easily disproven things somehow are always the ones that think the rest of us are blind sheep?

Yea, keep thinking that.

 

[momeNt]

So uhh... 60 people get measles and people are willing to set their hair on fire and run around screaming that we need to make vaccines mandatory? Aren't there bigger problems to worry about. The anti-vac movement is something that will get defeated with information, no need for legislation.

 

[dank69]

So uhh... 60 people get measles and people are willing to set their hair on fire and run around screaming that we need to make vaccines mandatory? Aren't there bigger problems to worry about. The anti-vac movement is something that will get defeated with information, no need for legislation.

I don't know that anyone is calling for legislation, at least not at a level that would be taken seriously.

 

[Newell Steamer]

The anti-vac movement is something that will get defeated with information, no need for legislation.

You mean like evolution??

 

[momeNt]

I don't know that anyone is calling for legislation, at least not at a level that would be taken seriously.

Oh, what's the fuss about then.

 

[momeNt]

You mean like evolution??

Yes. I guarantee you that a lot fewer believe in a creationism based understanding of our world than 100 years ago. Even if you look at just religious people a lot less believe that as well. I'd say it's simply a vocal minority.

 

[dank69]

Oh, what's the fuss about then.

Part of the process of spreading the information is publicly ridiculing the idiots that don't understand the difference between information and misinformation yet loudly proclaim that the misinformation is actually the truth.

 

[fskimospy]

Oh, what's the fuss about then.

The anti-vax nutter in this thread is actively spreading disinformation. If you think the solution is education, he's kind of the problem.

 

[Texashiker]

The anti-vax nutter in this thread is actively spreading disinformation.

Are you talking about me, or the OP?