replacing emachines mainboard

Unrealed2

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I have an old emachines celeron 433 that I am looking to upgrade with a new mainboard.
Anyone have any suggestions for a decent mainboard solution.
The current specs are:
256 mb pc100
4g hard drive
32x cdrom
geforce2 mx pci board
120 watt spx powersupply
Since the mainboard is a micro atx form factor it doesn't leave me many choices.Would it be a good idea to use an older board that i can use my old memory or just get new. I don't have a lot to spend on this and I do have a AMD 1800+ XP
Thoroughbred I can use

 

pspada

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Depends on what you are looking for. The best price would probably be on an ECS K7S5A Pro (or it and the OEM processor Fry's deal together). For overclocking, I really like my Epox 8RDA+. For performance and stability, as well as excellent support, it's tough to beat FIC's (First Internation Computer) motherboards. I often sell the AU13 (nForce2) to clients, when a nForce2 motherboard is called for.
 

KF

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>120 watt spx powersupply
This could be a problem for any AMD CPU whcih are something like 50 watts. That Intel Celeron uses a max of around 12 watts. Maybe undervolting, underclocking a low end XP. Shuttle and Soltek have microATX mobos with BIOS tweaking that are often mentioned. Search on the names.

I have an emachines with a 633 Celeron that I'm messing with. The problem I see is that the power supply is 2 1/8 above the CPU socket and not many heatsinks fit. Jamming the HS right up against the power supply is going to block air circulation.
 

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if the power supply is underrated for anything more powerful would it pay to just get a new ATX case w/ps cheap and go from there? The cost factor is a big thing and I was even hoping to use the old memory.
 

Unrealed2

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I had tried an ASrock K7VM2 board but it was to long for the case. I returned it and lost some money on it. The wife was unimpressed. I was thinking maybe MSI MS-6378X-L? Don't want to lose more money on returns though.
 

bootoo

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My old emachine had a proprietary power supply and couldn't accept a standard one so be careful of that if you re-use the case.
 

mechBgon

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If you want to do it right and get it over with, get

  • Antec SLK3700AMB case/power supply combo
  • Shuttle MN31N motherboard (onboard GeForce4MX video, network, high-performance 6-channel audio)
  • AthlonXP 1700+
  • 2 x 256Mb Crucial PC2100 DDR memory modules
  • Win2000 or WinXP, full OEM version
  • New 7200RPM hard drive

I'm sure you weren't budgeting for that, but remember... your Emachines restoration CDs will probably take a VERY dim view of a new motherboard, or a new anything else. And the 4Gb hard drive would still be holding up the show no matter how fast the CPU and motherboard were.

With the system I'm suggesting, you'd have the freedom to install Windows without any of that OEM junk that Emachines, Dell, HP or Compaq try to cram down your throat by means of their crummy restoration CDs. You could upgrade your CPU, your video, your motherboard or anything else you want to, thanks to a beefy, high-quality power supply and a full-sized, well-ventilated ATX case.
 

KF

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The conceptual problem people have is that they want to "upgrade" in the abstract. If you settle in your own mind exactly what the deficiency is, you can frame an upgrade that makes sense. If there are no upgrades that make sense, the only thing to do is live with what you have, or move on. Except for the HD, what you have in the emachines seems usable as is. In your own mind, get it straight what you want to accomplish. Tell people here, and get a reasonable reply.

Looking at the little emachines I'm fooling with, I'd say it is nicely designed and engineered. But they saved everywhere they possible could without considering the reusablility of the components. Every retail 810 mobo I ever saw would take up to 512M. This one is specified at 256M, with 128 DIMMs the largest permissable. It has a single external 5 1/4 inch bay. The cooling for the case is OK only for the type of CPU they chose. ( I see in the stores that the present emachines have a separate fan for cooling.) The PS hovers close to the mobo right over the CPU. This is actually a good design (and one that Intel and AMD prefer) because it picks up heat from the CPU HS cooler; Except the clearance is too low for the bigger HSs that are now used

If you upgrade into that case, you are locked into mobos of that era, unless you are willing to take a risk. If you choose an old mobo, you are limiting the performance of the possible upgrades to something like what you have already.

A reasonable upgrade would be a HD. You can always reuse a HD if you abandon the upgraded emachines.

Maybe a CPU. If the mobo will take a Coppermine CPUs, you can go up to 1G, but you may have to use the old HS to fit.

Since that mobo you tried did not fit, did emachines use a true microATX mobo? What are the dimensions?

A new Athlon motherboard may not work well, or at all in the old case. If not, you have to get a case to go in that direction. That case Mechbgon mentioned is not too expensive on the Internet (or its more modest little brothers SLK2600,SLK1600.). Although all you really need is any kind of physical ATX case, and the PS is the important part, combos like the Antecs are a better deal pricewise. Once you get a case with a proper PS, you can upgrade asynchonously, getting just what you need, when you need it. (You could probably put the emachines mobo in the new case, if you wanted, until you build up more cash to go on.) It is easier when you don't have to take the total price hit of everything new. If you don't ever upgrade, prebuilt machines are a better deal.

Saving the memory? There are rebated sales for 256M DDR every week for $20 and less.
 

Unrealed2

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It probably would behoove me to bite the bullet and get a new case and operating system, I thought that this may have been a simply inexpensive endevour. Gotta pass this info to the CFO (my wife) and see what she thinks. I truly appreciate all the feedback I've received

Thanks