Replacing an exterior door bottom weather guard

BarkingGhostar

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/RANT Nothing can be easy for me /RANT

About five years ago the weather guard mounted to the bottom of the basement exterior door failed. It was nothing more than a piece of wood with a rubber tubing stapled to it. I removed it to discover the gap was almost an inch in height from the door's threshold. Being that this is an exterior basement door, I'm guessing whatever the code was way back in 1999-2000 when the house was built required a steel-clad door, which is the same as the one for the kitchen door leading into the garage.

Anyhoo ... at the time of failure I could not find another weather guard product that would fill this 'gap' and finally just accepted whatever came closest. I am ready, after being distracted and disenfranchised for several years trying to install the replacement weather guard but I am having trouble getting the door off. For some odd reason I cannot get the door hinge pins to pop out. The door swings freely with no signs of resistance and I've tried applying some penetrating lubricant and waiting 30-minutes, a couple of hours, half a day and now two days and still after repeated attempts with a nail and hammer at the bottom of the hinge I cannot get those dang pins out.

Shockingly, five years ago when i first removed the failed weather guard I had no problems getting the pins out. The hinges and pins have been saturated twice in penetrating lubricating oil and still they will not budge. I know I can just unscrew the hinges themselves (from the door or jamb), but that turns a one-man job into a two man job when I need to put the door back into place. Any ideas on what to do to get this pins out? I am not being gentle by any means with the tip of the nail at the bottom of the pin when I strike it with said hammer.
 

herm0016

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weather guard? you mean the sill ( part attached to the house on the bottom) or the sweep on the bottom of the door?

sometimes there is a little set screw on hinges to keep the pins in.

maybe some pictures would help. how big of a nail? do your hinges have the little caps on the bottom?
 

bbhaag

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If they came out five years ago they should come out today the same way. Instead of using a nail try using a punch and the flat side of the hammer instead of the head. It might take a little bit of force but that should do the trick.
 

BarkingGhostar

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OK, it is the sweep. At my age maybe I am just remembering that I took the door of the hinges five years ago. Maybe I thought I did--I know I tried but maybe I ran into this problem. Haha. I started out with the nail, then moved to a blunt-tip Philips screw driver to increase the surface area of the force being applied. The pin cap is on the top. I could not find any set screws. Let me try to get some pictures up.
 

herm0016

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there was an extra peice of wood between teh door and the sweep? usually the sweep is just attached to the bottom of the door, either stapled or fits into some grooves.

type with splines that fit in grooves: https://www.amazon.com/Door-Bottom-...79&keywords=door+sweep&qid=1573077569&sr=8-16

staple or screw on. I like to use a washer head screw in a slot i cut, because the plastic moves with temperature and can buckle between the staples.




may want to look at this type as well

 

PowerEngineer

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I had a similar issue with unacceptable gap beneath my side garage door. I used slide-on door bottom much like this one:

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Hardware-Weather-Stripping-Door-Bottoms/Yes/N-5yc1vZc3e0Z1z0u6es

Three nice things about this approach is that you can adjust the fit to match uneven gaps, it grips the door bottom and so doesn't actually require fasteners, and you might be able to slide it onto the door while it is in place (although I did take my door off).
 

Greenman

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OK, it is the sweep. At my age maybe I am just remembering that I took the door of the hinges five years ago. Maybe I thought I did--I know I tried but maybe I ran into this problem. Haha. I started out with the nail, then moved to a blunt-tip Philips screw driver to increase the surface area of the force being applied. The pin cap is on the top. I could not find any set screws. Let me try to get some pictures up.
If the door opens out, there should be small set screws on the hinges. Open the door all they and inspect the barrel where the pin drops in, set screw will be there. It will be an allen screw.
This is what you want for the drro bottom.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I bought the Frost King product and slapped in onto the bottom of the door without even taking the door off. Works perfectly for $10. Where was this product 5 years ago?