Replace these 3x Intel Components with......

CorCentral

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I had a rig set to build but most people are telling me to switch to AMD because I game alot. These are the 3 items I'd need to change to make the system work. All other components are set in stone.

**Prices are from NewEgg and are Approx.**
Intel 3.6/800 660 ($410.00)
Intel 955X BX ($230.00)
Crucial Ballistix pc5300/667 2x1gb ($390.00)

Before answeing the questions........... I'm not going with a 64bit OS or 64bit/dual cpu! No need to talk me into it since I upgrade every 2-3 years. Not going there yet.

Questions:

1 ----- What would you choose to replace the 3x items above given the same amount of money that's listed?

2 ----- With the 3x items you choose, how much of a performance boost would I see over what I listed?
 
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3700+epox 9npa+2gb corsair value will match/perform better @ $548, a little less than half that intel setup.
 

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Originally posted by: wafflesandsyrup
3700+epox 9npa+2gb corsair value will match/perform better @ $548, a little less than half that intel setup.


I'm looking for the best 3 AMD items at around the same money spent above. I'm asking what would you choose given that much money. ($1,030)

 

Markfw

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at $1030 total, your solution is half the price, and probably faster. I say X2 3800+, DFI Infiity and 2 gig corair value. A little more, but way better.
 

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Forgot to mention...........
No overclocking and No Amd X2 or Intel D.


Single core, simple solution here guys!
 

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Forgot to mention...........
No overclocking and No Amd X2 or Intel D.


Single core, simple solution here guys!

Do you have a reason you don't want an X2?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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At newegg

Epox 9NPA+ $105
Geil value 2x1gig $201

So, the rest on a CPU if you really want to drop a grand on just 3 parts...

4000+ San Diego $334

X2
4200+ $400
4400+ $497
4600+ $630


What kind of videocard to you have planned here?
 

ribbon13

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With $1030 budget there is no reason to demand single core.

As a gamer don't you want to take advantage of the lastest Forceware's SMP optimizations? That's right, the lastest vid card drivers make use of dual-core!
 

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Originally posted by: CorCentral
Forgot to mention...........
No overclocking and No Amd X2 or Intel D.


Single core, simple solution here guys!

Dude! why not go for dual core? Games are going to start taking advantage of that you know. Plus there are definite and tangible advantages to having dual core in your day to day activities. Anyways, if you're dead set against it, then get the fastest amd64 you can get your hands onafter deducting the money from the following parts:

I'd also recommend a nic cooling solution (scythe ninja + nexus 120mm = ~$75) so that you can overclock your spanking new Single Core into the clouds.

As for memory, what you said or crucial ballistix 2x1Gb will do beautifully.

And mobo...well, either that $65 asrock, or, if you are serious about overclocking (and why shouldn't you be? Definitely worth it!) then get a DFI lanparty. they're all the same minus options so pick whatever you think fits you best. I don't care abour dual 1Gbit Lan or raid for example but you might.

Also, today, the only intel processor you want to buy is a pentium D INSIDE A LAPTOP. Intel is just outclassed at every level, semprons, amd64s,opterons,FX-5X, they all trounce their intel opponents into Tiny tiny little pieces. Then they eat them and laugh.

But it's about to change, intel is poised for a major comeback, why do you think apple picked them? Beware AMD, danger is coming, better be prepared!! DUM DUM DUM!

Sorry, I'm high

 

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Well, I think hes being an Intel fanatic, but to humor him, Athlon64 4000, and a DFI SLI mobo, and some good memory. He is the one that wants to waste the money.
 

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No X2 with his budget?. He's the only guy here who DOESN'T want an X2 chip. :eek: Like everyone else here, I can't imagine a reason why you'd avoid an X2 chip. I wish I had one myself.
 

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With that budget, get the very best 939 motherboard made: Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe (Monarch shows ETA of Nov 25, so i expect other retailers to get them about the same time. Expect to pay ~$200)

And the very best DDR RAM made: $330 - OCZ OCZ5002048EBPE-K

As for the CPU, for single core, Opteron 152 939 would put you out of budget, so get Opteron 150

If you can be convinced of dual-core then the Opteron 170 (or here or here or here or here) will anally rape the Intel setup without lube 9 times out of 10.
 

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
No X2 with his budget?. He's the only guy here who DOESN'T want an X2 chip. :eek: Like everyone else here, I can't imagine a reason why you'd avoid an X2 chip. I wish I had one myself.

Id rather have an Opteron :p

Not much difference really but 'Dual Core Opteron' sounds better than 'Athlon64 X2' imo :)
 

ribbon13

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
At this point in time I'd take either. Beggars can't be choosers. :)

Well, beggars can reach Opteron 165 sooner than X2 3800+, weighing in at $20 cheaper. =D
 

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Opteron 150 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103594
2GB OCZ Titanium - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227056
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131568

The Above is a single core setup as you requested that will spank that P4 setup like the Hot little bitch that it is. All for the "bargain" price of $917.44. CLock that bad azz Opteron to 2.6 and wonder why Intel is even around right now... Put the extra $100 to better use elsewhere in your sytem.... Like 10 Cold cathode lights, or 40 Lighted 80mm fans.... Case decals... etc ;)
 

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In your price range, you can basically choose between the Pentium 4 660 ($397), Pentium 4 560 ($389) or the Athlon 64 4000+ ($330).

Since the Pentium 4 660 and 560 are so close in price, you might as well go with the 660 if you choose Intel. That leaves a simple option: 660 or 4000+?

Take a look at these benchmarks, which pits each CPU against the other in a wide variety of tests. Look at the tests, and ask yourself which applications you care most about. Generally speaking, the 4000+ is a bit better at games and data compression, where the 660 is much better at audio/video encoding. Office apps are all over the board, with the 660 dominating in some tests and the 4000+ In others.

So, if you care most about improving your gaming experience, go for the 4000+. If you want fast DVD processing, go for the 660.

However, do remember that the 660 is $67 more than the 4000+. Do you want to spend that money for a nominal performance boost? Also, the Pentium 4 550, which is only slightly slower than the 660, sells for $279. If you're not using 64-bit apps, you might want to save the $118.

As for the Ballistix, those are horribly overpriced. I highly recommend you get some memory that costs less than $120 per GB. With DDR2, it's even cheaper.

Finally, if you're not overclocking, a feature-rich motherboard won't help you much. You can probably get by on something under $100.

Hope that helps.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Originally posted by: Megatomic
At this point in time I'd take either. Beggars can't be choosers. :)

Well, beggars can reach Opteron 165 sooner than X2 3800+, weighing in at $20 cheaper. =D
:lips: I wish.