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Repeated beeps on power up

Dooling37

Senior member

Hey all,

Here's my headache:
I've got a three-year old self-assembled system in rough shape. It has worked

smoothly and without problems for three years, until last week. It is a

"critical" system to me (although I have the data backed up elsewhere, I would

strongly prefer to save the system state, settings, etc. as well). I assembled

the machine myself years back, but I am by no means an expert when it comes to

hardware troubleshooting and repair.

The symptom, at this point, is a continuous series of repeated beeps when I

power the machine on. Before I get more into that, however, some basic

background info:
motherboard -- Gigabyte 7A-GXDR+ (Pheonix BIOS)
RAM -- 256MB of generic DDR
CPU -- AMD Athlon 1600(?)
OS -- Win2k with all SPs, patches, etc.
Last week, the system began rebooting on its own. Very infreqeuently at first,

then every five minutes two days later. At this point, I tried to boot it

several more times, and the results were:
1st try: successful POST, followed by "missing or corrupt ntoskrnl.exe" error

message,
2nd try: machine hanging at end of POST,
3rd try: no video display, no beeps, etc. The CDROM lights came on, and fans

were spinning.
So, as you see, the situation got progressively worse.

I initially worried that perhaps a virus/worm infection had deleted critical

system files, but google calmed those fears. Then, I thought perhaps one of

the most recent MS patches had flubbed something up, but again, could not find

any evidence of others' similar troubles on google. The only other change I've

made to the system recently was adding a UPS to the setup, connected via serial

port, with "safe shutdown" software installed. However, that was about a month

ago, and had not given me any problems whatsoever.

I talked to some co-workers, who suggested the problem probably was with the

power supply possibly going bad, which may have corrupted ntoskrnl.exe when it

was active, during one of the many improper shutdowns / reboots. Seems logical

-- the power supply is about 4-5 years old. They suggested that I test the

supply by sticking some pins in the ATX connector while removed from the

motherboard -- I opted simply to switch it out for another 300w supply that I

had around (never been used, purchased less than a year ago).

Switched out the supply, checked all wire / card connections, and powered up --

nothing, except for repeated beeps now from the motherboard. No video,

nothing. Except for the beeps.
I've googled this, and it seems that repeated POST beeps indicates memory

problems. I checked that the stick was secure, and switched it between the

different slots (though I think it's only supposed to work in slot 1) -- still

nothing. Could memory failure be somehow related to / caused by the power supply failure?
Unfortunately, I don't have any other DDR sticks around to swap out and test.

SO, my question is -- do you think the RAM is the problem? Should I simply buy

another stick, and expect that will probably solve the problem? Or might my

problems be larger / more complicated (f'd motherboard, hard drive, ?)?

Additionally, has anyone ever successfully repaired ntosknrl.exe from the

Windows installation CD, or will I probably have to do an entire re-install,

and lose my settings, etc.

THANKS much for any suggestions, help, advice...

p.s. -- assuming I DO need to buy new RAM, what are the preferred brands these days (I won't be buying generic again) -- Kingston, crucial, other..?

Bob
 
Try booting up without the ram installed. If you get the same beep code, there is a good chance it could be the ram. Could you be more specific about the beeps. Is it like say 3 beeps, a pause, and then 3 beeps, continuous beeping? Does it change between a high and low tone? Have you tried reseating the video card or cpu? Also, have you plugged the PSU directly in to the wall to bypass the UPS as having anything to do with the problem?
 
My bet would be on the RAM. If all your tries (as suggested in previous posts) won't solve a thing, buy the cheapest stick of RAM (128DDR would be I think) to test it. But if you can try with other RAM, that would be great
 
Thanks for the replies. Good questions, and suggestions...

I've booted without any ram, and did get the same series of beeps. There is no rhythm or unique pattern to the beeps -- just a endless series of monotone, equally spaced beeps.
I've made sure the video card is secure, but haven't messed with the cpu yet. The PSU is plugged directly into the wall at this point (UPS is out of the picture).

I will try removing all other cards and cables this afternoon.

Thank you...
 
It could still be another hardware problem that precedes the memory initialization in the POST process, but memory is the likeliest culprit.
 
folks,

a new stick of ddr ram (Ultra) seems to have fixed the problem fow now. ntoskrnl.exe error has not come back yet (knock on wood).
I'll feel a lot better after a couple days of stable use. ; )

thanks again for the help...
 
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