Originally posted by: Corbett
So you dont agree that the Koran states in Jihad that you must kill someone if they will not convert to Islam?
Religious texts are often intepreted by humans to twist their own secular/political power desires.
The Koran does not state that you should kill those who don't convert and in fact has a special place for Jews (and Christians) as fellow Sons and Daughters of Abraham and believers in the One God. "Or the People of the One Book." There is ambivalence to be sure but the respect is there.
Jesus and Mary are revered in Islam but are not raised to deity (and Messiah status).
Christians have converted by the sword for two thousand years in a twisted power struggle and it is wrong by scriptual standard and the same would apply to Muslims who would do the same. The great radical Islamic argument is the taking over of Palestine not the existence of Jews and Christians.
Furthermore, many of these Islamic radicals in interviews can't answer where in the Koran it justifies the killing of innocents other than vague "down with Zionists" and "death to Israel."They have no answer and as such they twist the Koran to their own liking.
If you want another persepective on Islamic thought you might want to read about the Sufi movement of the past (and still alive in areas). This will open your eyes.
Every religion gets twisted to do evil deeds in the name of righteousness. Sad.
From
Jihad and Scipture
When Allah permitted [the Muslims] to respond to aggression [by saying] ' Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed [Koran 22:39],' he laid down principles that would guarantee noble human behavior [on the part of the Muslims]. The Muslim responds only to someone who has attacked him, without deviation [as stated in the Koran 2:194]: ' And one who attack s you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you, ' [and also:] ' Fight for the sake of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities [Koran 2:190].'
"It is forbidden to attack noncombatants, even if they belong to the attacking countries. The soul of man is sacred and an attack on it is an attack on all humanity. [This is because it says in Koran 5:32:] 'W hoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men.'
"The Prophet [Muhammad] forbade the killing of women and children, saying 'Do not kill a small child' and 'Do not kill descendants and simple laborers,' [i.e.] anyone who hires him to carry out services that are not connected to fighting. Similarly, Islam has forbidden the murder of hostages and [priests] who dedicate themselves to God.
"Islam does not permit the capture or abduction of noncombatants. In the event that [noncombatants] are captured, Allah commanded [Muhammad] his Messenger to treat them well [as it says in Koran 76:8]: 'And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indigent, the orphan, and the captive' [and Muhammad said] 'Treat prisoners well.'
"It is forbidden to hold hostages and threaten the lives of noncombatants because of an action carried out or not carried out by others. [The hostages] are not to blame for this action, and they cannot prevent it. Allah said: ' N o bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another [Koran 6:164],' and the Prophet [Muhammad] said, 'A criminal will be punished only for his own deeds.'
"The Muslim fights oppression in all its forms? Furthermore, the Muslim defends human freedom, regardless of gender, religion, or affiliation, and fights for the sake of this freedom if necessary. [In Koran 4:75 it says:] ' And what reason have you that you should not fight in the cause of Allah and of the weak ?' [The Muslim] is never negligent in resisting the aggressor or occupier: ' And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand [Koran 47:35].'"
Here you have actual words from the Koran. Your statement that the Koran states you should kill all those who don't convert is patently false.
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