Rep. Harris: "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin."

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Trevelyan

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Tell you what, I'd love to see a Christian get elected. Someone let me know if that ever happens.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Tell you what, I'd love to see a Christian get elected. Someone let me know if that ever happens.

1976 . . . was in the running for the worst President of the past 40 years . . . until #43 . . .
 

Fox5

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Boy, what is wrong with this country when people are ok with electing a woman, but take issue with an atheist. I tell ya, I never thought the ultra-religious would ever pick a woman over a man.
 

straightalker

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Originally posted by: DickFnTracy
Man this lady is fullashit. Watch out Ann Coulter, you've got competition!

I'd equate her more with Cynthia McKinney than Ann Coulter. Coulter may believe some (or all) of what she is saying but I believe much of it is to sell books. McKinney and Harris appear to truly believe in everything that comes out of their mouths.
That's just using Katherine Harris, who is an unChristian Bush Crime Family operative, to slander Cynthia McKinney, a decent women who actually stands very much against the BCF.

Getting back to the subject of Katherine Harris and her deception in attempting to discuss Christians as if she herself was one. She's a Satanic dupe with the lies to prove it. Here's her talking. It's loaded with lies...
What role do you think people of faith should play in politics and government?

The Bible says we are to be salt and light. And salt and light means not just in the church and not just as a teacher or as a pastor or a banker or a lawyer, but in government and we have to have elected officials in government and we have to have the faithful in government and over time, that lie we have been told, the separation of church and state, people have internalized, thinking that they needed to avoid politics and that is so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers. And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women and if people aren?t involved in helping godly men in getting elected than we?re going to have a nation of secular laws. That?s not what our founding fathers intended and that?s certainly isn?t what God intended. So it?s really important that members of the church know people?s stands. It?s really important that they get involved in campaigns. I said I?m going to run a campaign of integrity. I?m not going to run it like all of the campaigns that I?ve seen before?. And you know, it?s hard to find people that are gonna behave that way in a campaign and be honorable that way in a campaign. But that?s why we need the faithful and we need to take back this country. It?s time that the churches get involved. Pastors, from the pulpit, can invite people to speak, not on politics, but of their faith. But they can discern, they can ask those people running for election, in the pulpit, what is your position on gay marriage? What is your position on abortion? That is totally permissible in 5013C organizations. They simply cannot endorse from the pulpit. And that?s why I?ve gone to churches and I?ve spoken in four churches, five churches a day on Sunday and people line up afterwards because it?s so important that they know. And if we don?t get involved as Christians then how could we possibly take this back?
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God is the one who chooses our rulers. This is the lie they support by the raping of the Scriptures in Romans Chapter 13. The unChristian Right is full of Satanic dupes like Katherine Harris who as Florida Secretary of State conspired to defraud thousands of Democratic voters by calling them convicted criminals. Type in Greg Palast and her name together on Google. He covers the stolen election of 2000 in books and on videos. She bore false witness against these voters. Breaking one of the Ten Commandments. Then she has the criminal dimentia to say that "God chooses our rulers". What sleaze!

So there you have it. A proven unChristian Extreme Right Wing Neocon in action prosylitizing among our true Christian Churches to try to drag them on board the Neocon agenda. It's a very tiring subject to study because it's so sad to see so much carnage these liars are doing to America by specifically manipulating our Churches into getting them tangled up in supporting those people who are actually leading them to their own destruction.

What is the pstychology of these people like Harris? It appears to be all about fooling others to get ahead of them and fooling yourself that your not lowlife scum for doing so.

On that Baptist website we watch her as she she runs through her families participation in all sorts of Christian ministries. The reality is of course that she is setting herself up as a wolf in sheeps clothing. This is just a part of her dimetia in action. The criminal pathalogical dimentia all the unChristian Right Wing share together in their pursuit of ill-gotten gain and power. As they destroy us they want to role play as our saviors and protectors. They live that lie as cover. After awhile, so much constant lying turns them into literal psychopaths.
 

DickFnTracy

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That's just using Katherine Harris, who is an unChristian Bush Crime Family operative, to slander Cynthia McKinney, a decent women who actually stands very much against the BCF.

Cynthia McKinney is a decent woman? That's friggin' hilarious. I guess assaulting a police officer is what qualifies as decent in the Democratic party. Of course I expect no less from someone who uses childish diatribe like "Bush Crime Family". Harris is an extreme right idealogue that I hope never holds public office again but to refer to McKinney as decent woman shows an ignorance measured in orders of magnitude.
 

db

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It's frightening how many people will trust the words of someone, just because they claim to speak as a Christian.

If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.
 

straightalker

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Churches in America are under seige as never before by the Unholy Alliances between corrupt political leaders and corrupt religious "leaders". It looks like Karl Rove is the brain behind a lot of it and the reason for the sudden increases. The symbiotic relationship we see now between corrupt political empire builder and unChristian empire builder is clearly being pushed to extremes by the current Regime that's occupying Amerika.

#1 - PERFECT EXAMPLE OF the corrupt SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHOP

#2 - PERFECT EXAMPLE OF the corrupt SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHOP
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:
 

Fox5

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:

You obviously already view Islam as corrupt, but why would you use that idea to try and justify the corruption of Christianity.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:

You obviously already view Islam as corrupt, but why would you use that idea to try and justify the corruption of Christianity.

I was mor ereferencing the fact that most of the crazy lefties on this board see no difference between someone with strong Christian beliefs and a muslim who straps bombs to his chest or slits a mans throat.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:

You obviously already view Islam as corrupt, but why would you use that idea to try and justify the corruption of Christianity.

I was mor ereferencing the fact that most of the crazy lefties on this board see no difference between someone with Extremist Christian beliefs and a muslim who straps bombs to his chest or slits a mans throat.
You don't have to be a crazy lefty to see the similarities. One might be more violent than the other but both are delusional.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:

You obviously already view Islam as corrupt, but why would you use that idea to try and justify the corruption of Christianity.

I was mor ereferencing the fact that most of the crazy lefties on this board see no difference between someone with Extremist Christian beliefs and a muslim who straps bombs to his chest or slits a mans throat.
You don't have to be a crazy lefty to see the similarities. One might be more violent than the other but both are delusional.

Thanks for proving my point.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: db
If Christians want to keep their faith from being diminished in America, they need to speak out every time a "Christian" gives an incorrect interpretation of the Bible.

YEAH! Just like those Muslims do! :confused:

You obviously already view Islam as corrupt, but why would you use that idea to try and justify the corruption of Christianity.

I was mor ereferencing the fact that most of the crazy lefties on this board see no difference between someone with Extremist Christian beliefs and a muslim who straps bombs to his chest or slits a mans throat.
You don't have to be a crazy lefty to see the similarities. One might be more violent than the other but both are delusional.

Thanks for proving my point.
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.

My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.

My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.

Then why all of the hatred and fear of Atheists and Agnositics?
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.

My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.

Then why all of the hatred and fear of Atheists and Agnositics?

Who exactly? If you can quote me a Christian saying "I hate Atheists" I can show you a Christian who doesn't understand what the Bible teaches in the first place.
 

Deptacon

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Why does the GOP back these people, I cant cant stand this crap....

then again why do the dems back the femi-nazi's, the tree huggers etc... I guess every party has its skeletons in the closet..
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.

My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.


It doesn't matter what is said if people do the opposite... and they have for 2000 years now.
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.

My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.

No it doesnt, the extremeist interprete it that way , but the vast majority of muslims dont, dont cross extremists with all of Islam....
 

kage69

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Then why all of the hatred and fear of Atheists and Agnositics?


Heh, S-L-A-P! Don't forget the campaign of sorts MSC had against Buddhism here in the States back in the 90s. Evangelical christians were incensed that Buddhist principles were getting popular in the States, I actually taped a few 'gospel hours' back in my college days where these preachers and their lackeys were practically working down a list and denouncing things that they believed contrary to their particular flavor of christianity. Tame by bible belt standards, but rather unsettling all the same.

Love and compassion my pregnant ass!

The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.

Pity we couldn't make the comparison more fitting and compare the "original" collection of gospels to the Koran. Hell, even in it's heavily revised and PC-conscious form, the multitude of versions refered to as 'the Bible' still have some pretty barbaric sh!t in it.
But that's the great thing about being christian I suppose, you can pick and choose which teachings to consider. Heh, seems many christians are quite 'pro-choice' in that regard, how ironic... ;)

 

yllus

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The only point you have is the one on top of your head. You know what the difference is between Extremist Muslims and Extremist Christians? The Extremist Christians reside in Secular Nations which prevents them from going to violent extremes. I'm positive if there was a Theocratical Christian Nation (like there were in Europe during the 11th to 16th centuries) we'd be seeing the same kind of violent brutality in the name of Christianity that we saw back in the European Middle Ages.
My head is round first of all.

Now, back on topic.

You are missing the REAL difference. The Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who will not convert to Islam. The Bible teaches Christians to love those who wont convert to Christianity.
Only in a forum as ridiculously extreme as this do I find myself actually having to defend Islam. :confused:

Okay, show me where the Koran teaches Muslims to kill those who won't convert.
 

Corbett

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So you dont agree that the Koran states in Jihad that you must kill someone if they will not convert to Islam?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Corbett
So you dont agree that the Koran states in Jihad that you must kill someone if they will not convert to Islam?

I think that's like saying the Bible states you should kill your son (Genesis 22).

Or for the state to kill the first born son of the opposition (Exodus 11).

Then again . . . that's Old Testament . . . that Jesus guy in the New Testament has all kinds of radical ideas like loving your neighbor . . . even loving your enemy. It's a shame nobody reads his stuff.

Many Muslims say 'jihad' refers to a personal struggle/effort to do right. Christians have a song that conveys a similar POV. It's called Onward Christian Soldier. Although it appears to talk in the collective, every good Christian knows that getting to Christ (or having it get to you) is a personal journey . . . not a team sport.