Reno Vet Cuts Down Mexican Flag Flown Above American Flag

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: FlashG
All I can say is that its about time someone stood up for our country. Personally I don't give a damn if anyone agrees with me or not.

How in God's name are you standing up for your country by trouncing on someone else's rights? What the hell is wrong with you people?

In the Constitution just a goddamn piece of paper?

Pretty much, these idiotic 'patriots' don't understand the irony of their stance on this issue, they'd gladly flush the constitution down the toilet just to stick it to Mexicans. If someone came to my house and tried that sh*t on MY private property, they'd see a shotgun blast to the face.

you bloody fools only see something for face value, or hell, don't even wanna read what people have said.
go read my last couple of posts. I think the last one really clears things up, so you and DangerAardvark go take a look and come back after. I will NEVER just 'flush' the Constitution.
and don't just label me a patriot. Nationalists and patriots can be words that have negative connotations, especially since most who are go a few steps too far. I'm patriotic, and we'll leave it at that. I love my country and what is offered, but I'm rational. If you have no idea what I am talking about, then you need to brush up on your knowledge of Nationalists and Patriots. They are typically extremists.
Oh and your sig makes me think you have no idea how government and freedoms work. The Giuliani quote is rather truthful in how freedom works. You don't have free reign like it may imply. You can never have that freedom. That's called chaos. And doesn't last. There is discretion and authority controls the freedom.

Quite frankly I wasn?t expecting to draw any attention to my post. Keep up the debate if you want in a couple of years it won't make any difference anyway.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: FlashG

Quite frankly I wasn?t expecting to draw any attention to my post. Keep up the debate if you want in a couple of years it won't make any difference anyway.

So to you this is about Mexicans and not about rights?

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Bunch of flag-huggers in this thread...

I know about 400K peeps from 1941-1945 and 58K people from around 1965-1970 that would respect that trend.

Doubtful. While I'm sure that most of those who served (in any time, let's not limit it to WWII and Vietnam) would be annoyed with a person choosing to do what the bar owner did, I'm likewise sure that most of them would understand that the foundation of this country is the ability of an individual to do as he pleases with his property. Respect for law trumps trivial gestures of "patriotism".

I disagree with what the bar owner did, but I will defend, to my death if necessary, his right to do it.

ZV

Pre-ACLU & PC neutering of the US, I don't think I'd put very much stock into that statement.

Honorable men can differ. But I would have Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Revere, Paine, Adams, Madison, Hamilton, and the remainder of the Founding Fathers on my side of the argument.

ZV

Those same men would probably be shocked with how the bill of rights is currently legislated, and lets not forget that those with tan or black skin from those days could find reason to state different.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Bunch of flag-huggers in this thread...

I know about 400K peeps from 1941-1945 and 58K people from around 1965-1970 that would respect that trend.

Doubtful. While I'm sure that most of those who served (in any time, let's not limit it to WWII and Vietnam) would be annoyed with a person choosing to do what the bar owner did, I'm likewise sure that most of them would understand that the foundation of this country is the ability of an individual to do as he pleases with his property. Respect for law trumps trivial gestures of "patriotism".

I disagree with what the bar owner did, but I will defend, to my death if necessary, his right to do it.

ZV

Pre-ACLU & PC neutering of the US, I don't think I'd put very much stock into that statement.

Honorable men can differ. But I would have Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Revere, Paine, Adams, Madison, Hamilton, and the remainder of the Founding Fathers on my side of the argument.

ZV

Those same men would probably be shocked with how the bill of rights is currently legislated, and lets not forget that those with tan or black skin from those days could find reason to state different.

Do you have any other than Red Herrings to throw out there, or will you just quit before falling further behind?

ZV

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt


Do you have any other than Red Herrings to throw out there, or will you just quit before falling further behind?

ZV

Can't say I like herring, really don't like any fish that isn't served as a fried plank.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
At least someone has the balls to stand up for not only what they believe in, but for whats right. You choose to come and live in this country then you had better respect it and its laws.

yeah, and if you ain't with us, you're against us!

No sabes nada, ¿sí señor? Necisiats a comprender la idioma que te habla, o cosas ocurre que no entiendes, y no quieres a commencar.
Pero, esta cotización de GWB no es apropriado por este discurso. Necisita a callate, por numero uno, y numero dos, escuches a la opposición, no siempre tienes razón. ¿Comprendiste?

 

[JackBurton]

I like that vet's style.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: kami333
Then he wads up the US flag and walks away with it.

sigh

It was on the news a couple nights ago I think, my gf and I didn't know who was being more retarded, the bar owner who didn't fly the flag correctly, the vet who called the news station and then had them tape him stealing an illegally flown flag, the TV crew that actually went out to tape something like that, all the TV stations who thought it was hot news, or the people being outraged by this when they can't fly their frayed mass produced in China flags themselves.

US Code Title 4.7: Displaying the flag

(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.

I see it all the time.

(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag?s own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.

Saw it wrong at a museum.

(h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.

Fairly common mistake. Along with:

(j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.

So you ever fight for your nation?
Your point is the mexican flag should be displayed above the US flag in the United states?
Let me guess that wouldn`t bother you?

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: FlashG

Quite frankly I wasn?t expecting to draw any attention to my post. Keep up the debate if you want in a couple of years it won't make any difference anyway.

So to you this is about Mexicans and not about rights?

Leading question mugs but no cigar. Try culture, if we don't have enough guts to stand by what we are than don't expect anyone else to pick up the torch.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Bunch of flag-huggers in this thread...

I know about 400K peeps from 1941-1945 and 58K people from around 1965-1970 that would respect that trend.

Doubtful. While I'm sure that most of those who served (in any time, let's not limit it to WWII and Vietnam) would be annoyed with a person choosing to do what the bar owner did, I'm likewise sure that most of them would understand that the foundation of this country is the ability of an individual to do as he pleases with his property. Respect for law trumps trivial gestures of "patriotism".

I disagree with what the bar owner did, but I will defend, to my death if necessary, his right to do it.

ZV

Pre-ACLU & PC neutering of the US, I don't think I'd put very much stock into that statement.

Honorable men can differ. But I would have Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Revere, Paine, Adams, Madison, Hamilton, and the remainder of the Founding Fathers on my side of the argument.

ZV

Those same men would probably be shocked with how the bill of rights is currently legislated, and lets not forget that those with tan or black skin from those days could find reason to state different.

Do you have any other than Red Herrings to throw out there, or will you just quit before falling further behind?

ZV

a good question is how exactly do you know that how things are currently, is how the Founding Fathers envisioned it? How do you know that freedom of speech, as it is currently enforced (with giving protection to flag burners) is the same as the way it was thought up and first written? You don't, I don't, no body truly does. Maybe they would be horrified as to how much people can get away with? Franklin is a distant relative, and yet I don't even know. Try that on for size. Because nobody knows.

So the best we can do is fight for the current laws of the constitution,as they are enforced by the government, and on our own, quietly discuss the intricacies of how the old Amendments are interpreted. I'll live by that, as that is fine by me. I am serving my country in every way the Founding Fathers envisioned: to be both independent as well as put civic duty ahead of oneself.

I wish I could argue this till the crack of dawn, but that would require me to dig up a lot of references because after awhile this is going to get down to a debate of nothing meaningful, as I think it has already become. Oh, and the fact that I have a test in my Russian class tomorrow, so I need to get back to studying.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: FlashG

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: FlashG

Quite frankly I wasn?t expecting to draw any attention to my post. Keep up the debate if you want in a couple of years it won't make any difference anyway.

So to you this is about Mexicans and not about rights?

Leading question mugs but no cigar. Try culture, if we don't have enough guts to stand by what we are than don't expect anyone else to pick up the torch.

I was just trying to clarify an ambiguous statement.

So it's about the invasion of Mexican culture?

 

[TehMac]

La idioma es la cultura. La cultura es el país, y el país es poder.

 

[FlashG]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: FlashG

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: FlashG

Quite frankly I wasn?t expecting to draw any attention to my post. Keep up the debate if you want in a couple of years it won't make any difference anyway.

So to you this is about Mexicans and not about rights?

Leading question mugs but no cigar. Try culture, if we don't have enough guts to stand by what we are than don't expect anyone else to pick up the torch.

I was just trying to clarify an ambiguous statement.

So it's about the invasion of Mexican culture?

No

 

[Gunslinger08]

By no means am I a great patriot who puts his country before everything else, but I have respect for the flag and what it stands for. I respect that others have fought, and died, so that I can live the lifestyle I do. Disrespecting a flag isn't just about a piece of fabric, it's about what it means to every American, whether or not they realize it. You have the right to express yourself the way that you want to, but downplaying the significance of the flag is just ignorant.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
At least someone has the balls to stand up for not only what they believe in, but for whats right. You choose to come and live in this country then you had better respect it and its laws.

yeah, and if you ain't with us, you're against us!

No sabes nada, ¿sí señor? Necisiats a comprender la idioma que te habla, o cosas ocurre que no entiendes, y no quieres a commencar.
Pero, esta cotización de GWB no es apropriado por este discurso. Necisita a callate, por numero uno, y numero dos, escuches a la opposición, no siempre tienes razón. ¿Comprendiste?

alright I had to use Babelfish to help me out here. Bear with me...

You do not know anything, yes Sir? Necisiats to include/understand the language that speaks to you, or things it happens that you do not understand, and you do not want to commencar. But, this quotation of GWB is not apropriado by this speech. Necisita to callate, by I number one, and I number two, you listen the opposición, not always you are right. You included/understood?

k

edit: wait, aren't you the guy that writes spam emails?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
At least someone has the balls to stand up for not only what they believe in, but for whats right. You choose to come and live in this country then you had better respect it and its laws.

yeah, and if you ain't with us, you're against us!

No sabes nada, ¿sí señor? Necisiats a comprender la idioma que te habla, o cosas ocurre que no entiendes, y no quieres a commencar.
Pero, esta cotización de GWB no es apropriado por este discurso. Necisita a callate, por numero uno, y numero dos, escuches a la opposición, no siempre tienes razón. ¿Comprendiste?

alright I had to use Babelfish to help me out here. Bear with me...

You do not know anything, yes Sir? Necisiats to include/understand the language that speaks to you, or things it happens that you do not understand, and you do not want to commencar. But, this quotation of GWB is not apropriado by this speech. Necisita to callate, by I number one, and I number two, you listen the opposición, not always you are right. You included/understood?

k

edit: wait, aren't you the guy that writes spam emails?

i think you're onto something there.

 

[FlashG]

Mosh, for some reason you have a knack for starting controversial threads that make people think. This topic is a good example. I believe it?s a good thing so keep it up.

 

[TBone48]

Does anyone know if the veteran who cut down the flag spoke to the owner first, to see if he was even aware of the problem? I'm wondering if he was given any opportunity to correct it.

 

[thepd7]

Does anyone else think the guy that cut down the flag looks like BoomerD?