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Remote start on a manual?

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I drove a 89 F-350 diesel with a broken ebrake for a couple years leaving it in gear all the time (in an extremely hilly town) with no problems. I now have a manual fusion that I never leave in gear, always using ebrake, even on steep hills in my home town.

Either work just fine. While both is technically better than just one, definitely not required
 
reallyscrued said:
Curious as to what car as a manual gets worse mileage than the auto alternative?
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My 06 fusion does, because Ford screwed up the gearing. It's a 5 speed like the automatic but noticeably shorter ratio, so 80 runs at about 3500rpm rather than ~2800 on the auto. With my 80/20 highway/city driving I lose about 4mpg average
 
phucheneh said:
I have but one rebuttal to offer to all you gear-leaver-inners:

Bah.
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It's how you're supposed to do it. Extra layer of protection against a runaway car. Besides, putting on the E-brake during the winter starts to carry the chance of not being able to release it again if your seals are getting bad and water gets in there.
 
SpongeBob said:
According to what authority???
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Can you just think logically about it?

Try putting your car in D and pulling forward just a bit. It doesn't take much at all to overpower a parking brake even when it's very tight. Someone rear ending your parked car would certainly be enough.

Past that, a worn parking gear pawl could potentially fail on its own just sitting there.


Mainly, it's just the logical thing to do. I don't understand why you wouldn't leave it in gear. It takes no extra time or effort, and is a VERY good habit.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Can you just think logically about it?

Try putting your car in D and pulling forward just a bit. It doesn't take much at all to overpower a parking brake even when it's very tight. Someone rear ending your parked car would certainly be enough.

Past that, a worn parking gear pawl could potentially fail on its own just sitting there.


Mainly, it's just the logical thing to do. I don't understand why you wouldn't leave it in gear. It takes no extra time or effort, and is a VERY good habit.
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I think it takes quite a bit to overcome the parking brake actually. I keep mine in good working order. If my car gets hit while its parked and its hard enough to move it, its not like the parking brake is suddenly gonna disengage, it's just gonna move a little bit.

Anyway, it's what i've been doing forever so i'm not gonna change now. Not sure I could break the habit even if i wanted to.
 
SpongeBob said:
I think it takes quite a bit to overcome the parking brake actually. I keep mine in good working order. If my car gets hit while its parked and its hard enough to move it, its not like the parking brake is suddenly gonna disengage, it's just gonna move a little bit.

Anyway, it's what i've been doing forever so i'm not gonna change now. Not sure I could break the habit even if i wanted to.
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Even in perfect working order and adjusted a parking brake does not exert that much friction at all. It's a direct mechanical link, rather than a power assisted hydraulic one.

And yes, it's definitely possible for a parking brake to disengage if you got bumped. I've been in cars where you could hit the parking lever and it would pop down. I've driven moving trucks that had messed up parking brake teeth where they would not all catch. And yeah, it's in good working order until the day one of the pawl teeth wear down just a bit and it pops open.


But hey... If that logic works for you..... Then ok, whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
2006 Fusion Owner's Manual, and a similar statement is probably in every car owner's manual where a manual trans is available.

Parking your vehicle
1. Apply the brake and shift into the neutral position.
2. Fully apply the parking brake, then shift into 1 (First).
3. Turn the ignition off.
Do not park your vehicle in Neutral, it may move unexpectedly
and injure someone. Use 1 (First) gear and set the parking brake
fully.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
http://mustangforums.com/forum/2005...drove-my-car-into-a-pond-fmylife-updated.html


Cliffs:

Guy has remote start. Dealer remote starts it with ebrake off, car drives itself into a pond.

Legally dealer is not responsible, has to go through the guy's insurance.


Yes, an idiot for not having an interlock switch, but just an example of why I don't mess with non-factory remote start systems.
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My car has the factory remote start that automatically starts the heater or AC depending on outside temp., a lot of times I won't use it for the fear that someone might be tempted to smash out a window and try and take off (they can't, when it's in remote start mode nothing will work) but they might just think I left it running and try anyway.
 
reallyscrued said:
Curious as to what car as a manual gets worse mileage than the auto alternative?
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Many if not most ATs are programmed for MPG...sacrificing performance for economy (and advertising)...

Some have "sport" mode, but even there the performance is not the same as 3 peddle shifters...paddle shifters may give you some more control, but not the fun...(though funny to me at least is the ad with Blake Griffin in "golf" gloves to "drive" his paddles...)...
 
When you park on a hill you should always turn the wheels into the curb.
If you are parking facing downhill, turn the wheels to the Left if on the Left side of street
and to the Right if on the Right side.
If you are parking on an Uphill do the opposite ..to the Right if parked on the Left, and
to the Left if parked on the Right.

The curb will stop the car from rolling if the brake lets go.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
I have driven stick for 26 years and would never leave a car with a manual parked in neutral on anything other than a completely level surface. Even then I leave it in gear. Personally I habitually leave the car in first on level or uphill surfaces, and reverse if it's pointed downhill. Realistically if it's in first gear or reverse, though, the car will not roll.
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This is the correct answer.
 
bruceb said:
When you park on a hill you should always turn the wheels into the curb.
If you are parking facing downhill, turn the wheels to the Left if on the Left side of street
and to the Right if on the Right side.
If you are parking on an Uphill do the opposite ..to the Right if parked on the Left, and
to the Left if parked on the Right.

The curb will stop the car from rolling if the brake lets go.
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Wouldn't you want the wheels pointed to the near curb whether uphill or downhill?

Because if you're parked uphill, curb on your right, wheels turned left, if you're not close enough to the curb or not turned sharply enough, you'll still roll out into the street. If you're pointing towards the curb, you're going to to into it no matter what

In the first pic, if you're close enough and turned sharp enough, you can turn left while parked right uphill. In the second, if you're farther away and/or not turned enough you'll roll right past the curb

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Not sure if this is right or not, just what I've always thought
 
Put the parking brake up, with foot hovering on the brake pedal let it roll to take up any slack if required. The put in first or park and turn off the car.

This leaves no pressure on the transmission or parking pawl, but leaves you a safety net of being in first should the parking brake fail.

I won't park anywhere that truly requires my tire to be against a curb.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Put the parking brake up, with foot hovering on the brake pedal let it roll to take up any slack if required. The put in first or park and turn off the car.

This leaves no pressure on the transmission or parking pawl, but leaves you a safety net of being in first should the parking brake fail.

I won't park anywhere that truly requires my tire to be against a curb.
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There is no parking pawl on a manual transmission and leaving the car in gear on a hill with a manual isn't going to hurt anything.
 
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