Remember the You lie comment to Obama and people call it disrespectful?

[Xellos2099]

Anyone here remember Joe Wilson's comment to Obama when he talk about the illegal immigrants will not get the health benefit? Joe Wilson claim that Obama lie and people call Joe Wilson is being disrespectful the the POTUS. Maybe it is not so disrespectful after all....

It look like Obama's next move after the health care would be the so call immigration reform that would potentially grant citizenship to the Mexicans illegal instead of working on a more important issue to the US people: getting "citizens" people back to work.

In a sense, he betrayed the citizens who voted for him, as he is fighting for the benefits of non-americans instead of the citizens that he is suppose to serve. Not to mention IF he manage to get all the illegal from mexico into legal, they would be entitle to the health benefit that they won't pay 1 cent into that he claim won't be if they are illegal. Therefore, it is safe to assume he intended for the illegal to getb all the benefit after all, thus the you lie comment is completely legal. He lied his teeth off and he deserve no respect. Respect are earn through action, not given just because he is president of the United States.

 

[theevilsharpie]

When did Obama say he was going to push for amnesty for illegal immigrants?

 

[Patranus]

Well, the Democrats are committing political suicide with health care and this "deemed and passed" strategy.

NOTHING is going to pass the Senate if the Democrats use this measure.

 

[sandorski]

Anyone here remember Joe Wilson's comment to Obama when he talk about the illegal immigrants will not get the health benefit? Joe Wilson claim that Obama lie and people call Joe Wilson is being disrespectful the the POTUS. Maybe it is not so disrespectful after all....

It look like Obama's next move after the health care would be the so call immigration reform that would potentially grant citizenship to the Mexicans illegal instead of working on a more important issue to the US people: getting "citizens" people back to work.

In a sense, he betrayed the citizens who voted for him, as he is fighting for the benefits of non-americans instead of the citizens that he is suppose to serve. Not to mention IF he manage to get all the illegal from mexico into legal, they would be entitle to the health benefit that they won't pay 1 cent into that he claim won't be if they are illegal. Therefore, it is safe to assume he intended for the illegal to getb all the benefit after all, thus the you lie comment is completely legal. He lied his teeth off and he deserve no respect. Respect are earn through action, not given just because he is president of the United States.

Ahh, technically, if they are made Citizens, then they are no longer Illegals. Thus there would be no "Lie".

 

[Carmen813]

The criteria I read that Obama endorsed from a bipartisan proposal that Schumer and Grassley put together includes:

1. Must pay a fine and all back taxes.
2. Must be fluent in English

and a few other requirements as a pathway to citizenship.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The criteria I read that Obama endorsed from a bipartisan proposal that Schumer and Grassley put together includes:

1. Must pay a fine and all back taxes.
2. Must be fluent in English

and a few other requirements as a pathway to citizenship.

Damn I hope #2 get's extended to all citizens. Using "of" instead of "ve" should result in immediate deportation for anyone.

 

[Harvey]

It look like Obama's next move after the health care would be the so call immigration reform that would potentially grant citizenship to the Mexicans illegal instead of working on a more important issue to the US people: getting "citizens" people back to work.

Out of which of your orifices did you pull this load of shit? Facts, not your lame opinion, please.

Well, the Democrats are committing political suicide with health care and this "deemed and passed" strategy.

NOTHING is going to pass the Senate if the Democrats use this measure.

That's what Republicans have already been doing since Obama took office. Dems gave them every opportunity to get their head out of their asses and contribute something constructive to the process, and all they've done is lie and obstruct every attempt to pass meaningful health care and every other legislative initiative.

Republicans' desperation is showing. They've been outed as the officially useless party of NO -- NO ideas, NO intellect, NO honesty, NO integrity and NO ethics. NO shit!

 

[Xellos2099]

The criteria I read that Obama endorsed from a bipartisan proposal that Schumer and Grassley put together includes:

1. Must pay a fine and all back taxes.
2. Must be fluent in English

and a few other requirements as a pathway to citizenship.

1 is a joke since i think 99% of the illegal immgrant work below mininium wage, with a children and 2 and their entire Federal Income Tax is write-off.

2. Ok, I can support that.

sandorski: The point of my post is to point out that Obama has intended that the illegal would get health care, one way or another.

 

[theevilsharpie]

sandorski: The point of my post is to point out that Obama has intended that the illegal would get health care, one way or another.

I see that you've ignored my post.

Can you cite a source for your claim that Obama intends to push for amnesty?

 

[Jhhnn]

Fear! FEAR! FEEEYYAAARRR!

 

[sandorski]

1 is a joke since i think 99% of the illegal immgrant work below mininium wage, with a children and 2 and their entire Federal Income Tax is write-off.

2. Ok, I can support that.

sandorski: The point of my post is to point out that Obama has intended that the illegal would get health care, one way or another.

Except that still doesn't make him a "Liar". Amnesty has always been the best solution to this issue, even Republicans know this. Once that occurs, of course they will have Health coverage or more accurately fall under whatever the Laws are of the rest of US Citizenry. However, the LLie is not with Obama, it's with those attempting to make the General Public believe that Illegals will get HC Coverage, they simply will not.

 

[Danube]

Obama is just America's Chavez. He wants to control energy, education and health and will lie and bully to get it. He's made snitch lists, mugged investors for unions, dropped charges vs Cole bombers and Panthers with clubs; appointed communists as czars; sent SEIU and his own personal organizing group (OFA) after protesters, he tells whoppers like people will have same health plans as Congress (told that on on Fox the other night - he knows how dumb most people are and lies right at them).

Obama and his gang of bullies/thugs have said they will use executive orders to get what they want along with the parliamentary shenanigans. Slim will absolutely force immigration/amnesty, crap and trade, health - and maybe that security force equal to military he wants. Obama is a dictator wannabe like his buddies in Honduras, Venezuela simple as. Only a fool can't see it by now after all the radical crap that radiates from the weirdo.

If he gets health-care he will get half of US economy along with Freddie and Fannie, AIG, Student loans, GM - all in a little over a year because US people are so dumb/naive. Dems complained about Bush being a tyrant when they are the ones delivering the real Slim Shady. Shame.


"Obama Making Plans to Use Executive Power"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/us/politics/13obama.html

WASHINGTON — With much of his legislative agenda stalled in Congress, President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities.

 

[sandorski]

Obama is just America's Chavez. He wants to control energy, education and health and will lie and bully to get it. He's made snitch lists, mugged investors for unions, dropped charges vs Cole bombers and Panthers with clubs; appointed communists as czars; sent SEIU and his own personal organizing group (OFA) after protesters, he tells whoppers like people will have same health plans as Congress (told that on on Fox the other night - he knows how dumb most people are and lies right at them).

Obama and his gang of bullies/thugs have said they will use executive orders to get what they want along with the parliamentary shenanigans. Slim will absolutely force immigration/amnesty, crap and trade, health - and maybe that security force equal to military he wants. Obama is a dictator wannabe like his buddies in Honduras, Venezuela simple as. Only a fool can't see it by now after all the radical crap that radiates from the weirdo.

If he gets health-care he will get half of US economy along with Freddie and Fannie, AIG, Student loans, GM - all in a little over a year because US people are so dumb/naive. Dems complained about Bush being a tyrant when they are the ones delivering the real Slim Shady. Shame.


"Obama Making Plans to Use Executive Power"

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/us/politics/13obama.html

WASHINGTON — With much of his legislative agenda stalled in Congress, President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities.

You are just America's Village Idiot.

 

[CycloWizard]

I see that you've ignored my post.

Can you cite a source for your claim that Obama intends to push for amnesty?

Look at the recent poll numbers. He needs someone to vote for him next time around.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Look at the recent poll numbers. He needs someone to vote for him next time around.

If he comes out against it, he'll have the xenophobic knuckledragger vote locked up :awe:

 

[Xellos2099]

I see that you've ignored my post.

Can you cite a source for your claim that Obama intends to push for amnesty?

In my humble opinion, Obama is not following the law that is already in place. The law is simple, if you are illegal, you are breaking the law and you are suppose to be deported; just like how people that are caught with stealing from store would be arrested. They are welcome to USA, as long as they follow the immigration law.

Now, Obama want a way to made the illegal into legal citizens, we are rewarding an illegal act; entering the country illegally. If they truly want to be legal citizens, they should be leaving the country THEN apply for citizenship, just like everyone else. Just the "facts" they took a shortcut and Obama call for reform and open a path for illegal to become legal is already a form of amnesty. I don't know about you, but this is how I felt. Yes, it is my opinion.

I am not a fan of political correctness. It is Obama's "intend" that matter here.

 

[theevilsharpie]

In my humble opinion, Obama is not following the law that is already in place. The law is simple, if you are illegal, you are breaking the law and you are suppose to be deported; just like how people that are caught with stealing from store would be arrested. They are welcome to USA, as long as they follow the immigration law.

Now, Obama want a way to made the illegal into legal citizens, we are rewarding an illegal act; entering the country illegally. If they truly want to be legal citizens, they should be leaving the country THEN apply for citizenship, just like everyone else. Just the "facts" they took a shortcut and Obama call for reform and open a path for illegal to become legal is already a form of amnesty. I don't know about you, but this is how I felt. Yes, it is my opinion.

I didn't see a link in your post or a reference to a credible offline source, so I'm assuming that you've pulled it out of your ass.

In other words, cool story bro.

 

[Patranus]

That's what Republicans have already been doing since Obama took office. Dems gave them every opportunity to get their head out of their asses and contribute something constructive to the process, and all they've done is lie and obstruct every attempt to pass meaningful health care and every other legislative initiative.

Republicans' desperation is showing. They've been outed as the officially useless party of NO -- NO ideas, NO intellect, NO honesty, NO integrity and NO ethics. NO shit!

Really?

I seem to remember a jobs bill passing recently.
I am pretty sure Stimulus passed.

You are kidding yourself if you think that the GOP has voted NO on everything the democrats have put up for a vote.

 

[ebaycj]

The criteria I read that Obama endorsed from a bipartisan proposal that Schumer and Grassley put together includes:

1. Must pay a fine and all back taxes.
2. Must be fluent in English

and a few other requirements as a pathway to citizenship.

1 is a joke since i think 99% of the illegal immgrant work below mininium wage, with a children and 2 and their entire Federal Income Tax is write-off.

2. Ok, I can support that.

Oh, the Irony.

 

[Jhhnn]

Harvey exaggerates, but, then, Patranus exaggerates even more...

Do you think senatorial repubs will set a new filibuster record, you know, bigger than the one they set last year?

 

[Danube]

You are just America's Village Idiot.

Voting for Pharoah - I mean Obama - would be a requirement for that. There are lots of qualified candidates but you have nothing to fear from the competition.

 

[nonlnear]

Still no link or source? How very... convincing!

 

[JEDIYoda]

In my humble opinion, Obama is not following the law that is already in place. The law is simple, if you are illegal, you are breaking the law and you are suppose to be deported; just like how people that are caught with stealing from store would be arrested. They are welcome to USA, as long as they follow the immigration law.

Now, Obama want a way to made the illegal into legal citizens, we are rewarding an illegal act; entering the country illegally. If they truly want to be legal citizens, they should be leaving the country THEN apply for citizenship, just like everyone else. Just the "facts" they took a shortcut and Obama call for reform and open a path for illegal to become legal is already a form of amnesty. I don't know about you, but this is how I felt. Yes, it is my opinion.

I am not a fan of political correctness. It is Obama's "intend" that matter here.

You were asked for links not your village idiot opinion...

 

[JEDIYoda]

sad the Repubilcans are the great obstructionist party!!
Sure you can site a few morsels but for mthe most part harvey has you owned!!!

 

[fantolay]

Lets bring this dead topic back to life with a twist.

Yeeeeeaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dean.