..but now ya get re-directed all over the site without getting the download!!! Its like, pay $xx.xx to get super fast download or pay nothing and get nothing. I literally had to go to about 15 fvckin sites before I could get the UT2004 demo. Whats the deal? Is it me, or does this annoy you to?
Remember the old days, ya hit download and actually get the file...
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Welcome to the real world. Advertising alone doesn't pay the bills, and bandwidth costs money, why shouldn't the people who help use the bandwidth be expected to help defray the costs?
\Dan
Megatomic
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They make it hard in order to test your seriousness in acquiring the file. If you only had a passing fancy in downloading the demo you'd give up quickly and they won't have wasted their bandwidth on you. If you REALLY want the demo, you'll click your arse off until you actually succeed in initiating a download.
Just a joke...
Just a joke...
so when advertising paid the bills and downloads were free, that wasn't the real world? whatever! Its more like every pimple faced computer geek made their own site and now theres a billion game sites with not enough advertising to go around. Thus the charge for the downloads.
Have you ever heard the phrase that goes something like "The dot com bubble has burst"? This is, in short, what I mean. It used to be every company had a website, and many had things to download. They had no business model/plan and thought they could rely on advertising to pay the bills. All of the sudden, when millions of people starting visiting the sites, they could no longer afford the bandwidth and went bankrupt. So, the short answer to "so when advertising paid the bills and downloads were free, that wasn't the real world?" is: No. it wasn't the real world. It was a house of cards built on a shakey foundation of "Banner ads will pay for everything!!" The problem is not "not enough advertising". If you think that you must not surf much. Look at the advertising on this site alone. I remember back in the day when an ad was a single banner ad at the top or bottom of the page. Now we have two or three ads or more. There is plenty of advertising. No one clicks on it in sufficient numbers to pay the bills. I suspect thats at least part of the reason this very site has/had a subscriber program. To offer services such as ad free and speedier browsing for a fee. To help pay the bills. And regardless of how many "pimple faced computer geeks" that have websites (or expect free downloads from those same websites) the internet world has changed. Expect to pay more and more often for "value-added services" going into the future. if you don't like it, get of the information superhighway now. Wake up and smell e-business in the new millenium.
\Dan
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I'll bet Fileplanet would be happy to see P2P networks shutdown. Think about it, if people really had their acts together, we wouldn't be complaining about this stuff. A big demo is released, and within a couple of hours, everyone who wants it has it, thanks to P2P sharing.
I guess everyone is too busy sticking it to the RIAA and MPAA to share game demos.
I guess everyone is too busy sticking it to the RIAA and MPAA to share game demos.
^ that and everyone wants to leech from others without uploading anything themselves. There have been a bunch of posts here asking how to hack kazaa to lie about your uploading level.
Not that it affects me since I don't use p2p, but it still is amusing, annoying, unsurprising and sad.
Not that it affects me since I don't use p2p, but it still is amusing, annoying, unsurprising and sad.
Is anyone here actually stupid enough to pay a monthly fee just to download game demos?? I seriously hope not!
I won't pay up or shut up! Don't attack me for stating my opinion on how things have changed with simply donwloading files.
I understand that "The dot com bubble has burst" but what annoys me is that sites lead ya to believe that the monthly fee is not needed to download the file, but the "free" download links don't work.
I won't pay up or shut up! Don't attack me for stating my opinion on how things have changed with simply donwloading files.
I understand that "The dot com bubble has burst" but what annoys me is that sites lead ya to believe that the monthly fee is not needed to download the file, but the "free" download links don't work.
I actually know a guy who pays for it, loves it, and I pay for a different service (gamespot) myself. Speed DOES Rock. When you can pull 400KB/sec on any file you need, it's a good thing.
Bandwidth isn't cheap. Links don't always work because that's what happens when free sites are overloaded. It's going to start happening more and more.
Bit torrent is where it's at, y'all.
Bandwidth isn't cheap. Links don't always work because that's what happens when free sites are overloaded. It's going to start happening more and more.
Bit torrent is where it's at, y'all.
I can see like 10 bucks a year, but some of these sites are pimpin $9.95 per month. I'm sorry but thats crazy.
1) 10 bux a year isn't gonna cut it. It's not gonna happen anytime soon. 2) People obviously pay the $9.95/month, so I guess they aren't charging too much for people who really want the files. 3) Crazy or not, that's the way it's going to be. Get used to it.
People thought Sony was crazy to charge a monthly fee for an online game after you also paid to buy it. Funny, "Evercrack" must mean no one is willing to pay for the pleasure of playing this game... It's the same thing with file downloads. If you don't want to pay, get everything now, soon you won't be able to in many many instances. You are right to have your opinion. Weather I agree or not isn't the issue, all I am doing is stating facts.
\Dan
add something of value to the conversation or get lost! Of your 10,949 posts, I'd hope a few of them offered some more intelligence and insight than that one.
So your saying, in time, we'll never be able to download drivers, game patches, demos, and other files without paying? Is that one of your "facts" you speak of? Please tell me thats not what your saying, b/c I don't believe that for a heartbeat.
Obviously that is not what I am saying. Perhaps, if you actually read what I said... I said in one post that "more and more often" you will have to pay. I did not say "every site will make you pay". I am usually very careful to avoid absolutes, as I did in this case. Please do not put words in my mouth. I doubt there will be charges for patches and drivers, at least not from the manufacturers websites. (Going forward though, I may be wrong. If the "software as a service" plan moves forward, you may pay for the updates as part of your subscription to use your online Word or whatever.) Some sites already charge for drivers, especially old ones no longer available at the manufacturer websites. For the most part the companies that sell product can afford the cost of bandwidth. A 3rd party site that hosts files for download can not afford the massive bandwidth to allow hundreds of thousands of huge downloads for nothing. You already have trouble finding your precious UT2004 demo without having to pay, I don't see why it's such a stretch to believe this will become common business practice in the future. Of course there will always be free places to download from. They may not always work. They may require you to jump through hoops. But they will be around. On the other hand, if you want the file now, don't want to be redirected to a million sites or wait in a "download queue" then you will pay for the premium content and speed. Or, you will do without the file. I don't see why you can't seem to understand. It's a business world. "The business of business is to make money." If companies think they can make money by charging a monthly fee to give access to the files people want, they will do it. Yes, it will alienate some people. But then those are the people who aren't going to pay, so they don't really care, so long as enough people pay. They want your money, not your happiness.
\Dan
I totally understand the business world, but that doesn't mean its all good. Does it? The price of gas is going way up, thats business, doesn't that annoy you? I don't see where I put any words in your mouth. I already understand and know everything your saying. Your not telling me anything new. I was simply referring to when it was so easy to download a freakin file, and how nice it was. I really thought my original statements would be in line with many others. Instead I get Biz 101 and shut your pie hole if ya don't wanna pay. I simply thought there were more people a little annoyed by what downloading has become.
You put words in my moth when you said
\Dan
And the "Biz 101" answer is a direct response to your opinion. I already said you are free to have it, but that doesn't change the facts. Do I like having to pay $1.80 per gallon of gas? No. Will b!tching about it change anything? Again, no. I just pay for the gas and go on my way. Nothing I can do to alter the price of gas. I can not buy gas and take the bus, walk or ride my bike. Or, I can pay for the gas and go on my way. Same thing here. You can pay the fees to download, or you can try one of the alternate choices.
\Dan
I"m not sure if you're aware of this, but AT is a forum for opinions. And my opinion is that you should stop whining about things that are FREE.
If you can't handle this, maybe you're just too sensitive for this forum.
I can handle anything your weak ars can dish out. Thats one of MY opinions, hope YOU can handle it. Actually I'm sorry, b/c I've been around forums long enough to know that most controversial threads has someone like you adding useless bullsh!t and your just doing your part.
Mitzi and alm4rr, thanks for the useful advice.
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