Remember the 2 year old tortured and killed in England?
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Grrrrrrrrr.... :|:|:|:|:|:|
Holy freaking hell that makes me furious!
?we should allow them now to get on with their lives.?
Oh, suuuure! And let's let that poor little 2 year old boy get on with his- oh! wait, we can't because he was tourtured to death by these sick little F***s!!!!!
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Holy freaking hell that makes me furious!
?we should allow them now to get on with their lives.?
Oh, suuuure! And let's let that poor little 2 year old boy get on with his- oh! wait, we can't because he was tourtured to death by these sick little F***s!!!!!
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You mean the Jamie Bulger thing?
That sucks. They are even saying that the two lads who did it had a better life in prison than they would have had, had they not been caught. Apprantly, they got better education (mainly because they would have been forced to do it!).
I dont think they should be let out, if only for their own safety, there will be a lot of angry people who'll want to tear them apart.
That sucks. They are even saying that the two lads who did it had a better life in prison than they would have had, had they not been caught. Apprantly, they got better education (mainly because they would have been forced to do it!).
I dont think they should be let out, if only for their own safety, there will be a lot of angry people who'll want to tear them apart.
That is absolutely horrible. Even at the age of 10 you have to have some comprehension of what you're doing. I don't really condone getting revenge on them though - the people who would kill the 2 killers are no better than the killers themselves. (Don't get me wrong - they deserve to be killed, but it's just a vicious cycle of brutality)
<< there will be a lot of angry people who'll want to tear them apart. >>
hence the reason for new identities! :|
This is why victims of crime should look not towards the state for closure of their emotional wounds - leave that up to friends, family, church, etc. They do a much better job. Unfortunately, the only thing now is what to do with the criminals - and you, me and anyone else on this board have no first-hand accounts to make an informed judgment on the issue.
so what's the solution? They've spent almost 1/2 their lives in jail. How long should they keep them locked up: until 21, 30, 60, for life?
Or should they have simply been executed back when they were 10?
It's an interesting case. Hopefully they'll be well monitored once they get out.
Or should they have simply been executed back when they were 10?
It's an interesting case. Hopefully they'll be well monitored once they get out.
<< so what's the solution? They've spent almost 1/2 their lives in jail. How long should they keep them locked up: until 21, 30, 60, for life? >>
The parents of the murdered boy are just asking for 3-4 more years.
DannyLove
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?I do not want revenge, I just want justice,?
something that has always failed in the justice system. This is the type of crap that really gets my blood on the run. Can't they see between the lines? two 10 year olds TORTURED and MURDERED a little boy. If you are capable of such actions, doesn't matter what age you are, obviously there is something wrong with you, and obviously you have major issues that need to be resolved before being placed back into society (if). It seriouslly disgusts me to know that these people aren't seeing what's so obvious here. Murder, Torture............ oh sure, they are 18 now. I think 8 years later is enough,...we should just give them new names, give them a complete new identity, heck, maybe we can even pay for their high education, but we believe this may give them time to think about their actions........... :| #%#$@#@#%$#^%$#^%$#%#^#^%#^#@$#@#^@#$$:|
:| i cannot believe this world........all these murderers getting away.....makes you begin to wonder. take Robert Blakes incident as well, or OJ....the justice system is failing and has been failing, and its taking us all by storm
danny:|~!
something that has always failed in the justice system. This is the type of crap that really gets my blood on the run. Can't they see between the lines? two 10 year olds TORTURED and MURDERED a little boy. If you are capable of such actions, doesn't matter what age you are, obviously there is something wrong with you, and obviously you have major issues that need to be resolved before being placed back into society (if). It seriouslly disgusts me to know that these people aren't seeing what's so obvious here. Murder, Torture............ oh sure, they are 18 now. I think 8 years later is enough,...we should just give them new names, give them a complete new identity, heck, maybe we can even pay for their high education, but we believe this may give them time to think about their actions........... :| #%#$@#@#%$#^%$#^%$#%#^#^%#^#@$#@#^@#$$:|
:| i cannot believe this world........all these murderers getting away.....makes you begin to wonder. take Robert Blakes incident as well, or OJ....the justice system is failing and has been failing, and its taking us all by storm
danny:|~!
Although I understand what these kids have done 8 years ago is something sick and inexcusable, regardless of any reason. 8 years may be a little short but what do you suggest?? execute them?? keep em in jail for life??
Personally, I believe in second chances, regardless. I know, I know, what these boys did.....its sick and this is an extreme case. Still, they take the life of somebody so its right to avenge that child's death by taking the live's of these boys?? And yes, I do believe that leaving them in jail for the rest of their lives is taking their lives.
However, 8 years??? I dunno if they'll be ready for their second chance. Hopefully they've matured enough and they will be. I pray for them.
Personally, I believe in second chances, regardless. I know, I know, what these boys did.....its sick and this is an extreme case. Still, they take the life of somebody so its right to avenge that child's death by taking the live's of these boys?? And yes, I do believe that leaving them in jail for the rest of their lives is taking their lives.
However, 8 years??? I dunno if they'll be ready for their second chance. Hopefully they've matured enough and they will be. I pray for them.
Heard about this the other day on NPR. One thing they pointed out is that these boys will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. One drink too many, one wrong word, one story that shouldn't be told or name that shouldn't be given... and their pictures will be posted everywhere. They can never get close to anybody for fear of being found out. There are not many countries that would willingly accept them as refugees.
I would not be surprised to hear of them committing suicide in the next few years.
I would not be surprised to hear of them committing suicide in the next few years.
so what's the solution? They've spent almost 1/2 their lives in jail. How long should they keep them locked up: until 21, 30, 60, for life?
Or should they have simply been executed back when they were 10?
It's an interesting case. Hopefully they'll be well monitored once they get out.
Yeah, I don't know what a good solution is. What these kids did was as close to evil as I can imagine. If you can commit such a horrible crime when you're that young -- what sort of crimes can you commit when you're older? I would have serious qualms about whether someone like that can truly be rehabitulated. They are probably intelligent enough to fool people into thinking they are safe now.
In USA Today they quoted:
<<Other European countries have set the age at 14, 15, 16 or, in some cases, at 18," Crook told The Guardian newspaper.
"If children do something wrong, they should be dealt with through the care system not the criminal justice system. Children know if they have done something wrong, but they don't know the difference between various levels of wrongdoing."
I truly disagree with this statement. When I was a young kid, I think I understood the concept of "differences between various levels of wrongdoing." It's one thing to spill milk on the ground and another to break a prized vase. And killing someone is the worst. Anybody who cannot distinguish this is not really human in my opinion.
Or should they have simply been executed back when they were 10?
It's an interesting case. Hopefully they'll be well monitored once they get out.
Yeah, I don't know what a good solution is. What these kids did was as close to evil as I can imagine. If you can commit such a horrible crime when you're that young -- what sort of crimes can you commit when you're older? I would have serious qualms about whether someone like that can truly be rehabitulated. They are probably intelligent enough to fool people into thinking they are safe now.
In USA Today they quoted:
<<Other European countries have set the age at 14, 15, 16 or, in some cases, at 18," Crook told The Guardian newspaper.
"If children do something wrong, they should be dealt with through the care system not the criminal justice system. Children know if they have done something wrong, but they don't know the difference between various levels of wrongdoing."
I truly disagree with this statement. When I was a young kid, I think I understood the concept of "differences between various levels of wrongdoing." It's one thing to spill milk on the ground and another to break a prized vase. And killing someone is the worst. Anybody who cannot distinguish this is not really human in my opinion.
DannyLove
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<< Although I understand what these kids have done 8 years ago is something sick and inexcusable, regardless of any reason. 8 years may be a little short but what do you suggest?? execute them?? keep em in jail for life?? >>
YES!!! Kill them. People like that should not live. They should not have the same freedoms as any other person here. They shouln't live in the same neighborhood as we all do. They should not exist. Those minds are possessed or infected and they need to be NON-existant!!!! :|
dannyTOTALLYpissed~!
DannyLove
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<< Heard about this the other day on NPR. One thing they pointed out is that these boys will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives. One drink too many, one wrong word, one story that shouldn't be told or name that shouldn't be given... and their pictures will be posted everywhere. They can never get close to anybody for fear of being found out. There are not many countries that would willingly accept them as refugees.
I would not be surprised to hear of them committing suicide in the next few years. >>
good point. and one I was thinking. If our justice system fails, than why not let them do the justice for us all. I do believe they will either be killed or commite suicide. But WHERE AND WHATS THE JUSTICE HERE?! answer: none
danny~!
<< YES!!! Kill them. People like that should not live. They should not have the same freedoms as any other person here. They shouln't live in the same neighborhood as we all do. They should not exist. Those minds are possessed or infected and they need to be NON-existant!!!! :|
dannyTOTALLYpissed~! >>
there is no justice in that
Azraele
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<< Once released, Thompson and Venables will have new identities, protected by a High Court injunction banning the news media from publishing their photos or revealing their whereabouts for the rest of their lives. But there are fears their identities will be impossible to conceal and their lives will be at risk from vigilantes intent on retribution.>>
This one is too messed up for me. Reading the story of what they did, skipped out of school, led the boy away, poured paint in his eyes, beat him, and then put him on a train track to be cut in half, the outraged part of me doesn't think these young killers should be protected. However, what if they are reformed and sorry? Should they be given a second chance?
The whole thing is upsetting...:|
This one is too messed up for me. Reading the story of what they did, skipped out of school, led the boy away, poured paint in his eyes, beat him, and then put him on a train track to be cut in half, the outraged part of me doesn't think these young killers should be protected. However, what if they are reformed and sorry? Should they be given a second chance?
The whole thing is upsetting...:|
DannyLove
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<< YES!!! Kill them. People like that should not live. They should not have the same freedoms as any other person here. They shouln't live in the same neighborhood as we all do. They should not exist. Those minds are possessed or infected and they need to be NON-existant!!!! :|
dannyTOTALLYpissed~! >>
there is no justice in that >>
i meant deathrow, not literally go up to them and murder them
danny~!
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