Remember that Gustav hurricane and the evacuation?

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Nohr

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Ns1
120 hours as an RN in 7 days is about...

~7000 in earnings

"I am a nurse who has just completed volunteer working approximately 120 hours..."

Volunteer work generally means no pay.
That's kinda the point he was making. She gave away a week worth of income to do this for these people.
 

hunewbie

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People wonder why the south has the perception of being a bunch of welfare rednecks.

I promise you those werent the rednecks talking.

I haven't known too many rednecks with a victim entitlement mentality, but I've seen it quite a bit in the projects. But what would you expect? For 50 years, the government has been telling these people that they are entitled and should expect something for nothing. I see that mentality all the time. It makes me sad. :(


i have this friend who owns apts down in Long Beach, Ca...he rents to some individuals who only pay like 28 bucks a month for a 2 bedroom apt...and the goverment covers the rest...they'd be driving "ok" cars and sporting gold jewelry...but yet be late on the 28 dollars of monthly rent... *sigh*....
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: xochi
Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: xochi

No doubt everything she said was true, however she should be complaining to emergency mgmt why she didnt have adequate security, and additional nurse staff for a volunteer position. Instead she is "shocked" to find out that sometimes people are greedy, irrational scumbags.

somebody call the WHAAAAbulance.

Did you read the letter?

She said this "does anyone address the responsibility (or irresponsibility) of the evacuees?" and this " me to scrub emesis from the floor near a nauseated child while his mother lies nearby, watching me work 26 hours straight, not even raising her head from the pillow to comfort her own son?" and this "worked for 7 days being called every curse word imaginable"
She worked for free to help and those people <I am using the term very loosely> had some nerve to treat her and other volunteers like that and had the ball to complaint about the conditions? BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSY.

She volunteered for free and worked 120 hours in 7 days <she is a RN, 120 hours as a nurse = some serious money there>. How many hours did you work for free and had to put up with the entitlement attitude of those people? Well?? Just what I thought. :disgust:


Why would anyone in their right mind volunteer to work 72 hours in a evacuee shelter and think the people their would behave rationally and sanely. Most had no other option and perhaps forced. Responsible folks drove far away and stayed in a hotel, or with freinds family. Thats like volunteering to work 72 hours in a homeless shelter and then complain that "those people" STEAL, DRINK ALCOHOL IRRISPONSIBLY AND FOR GODS SAKE SMELL BAD! well no shit.

I'm sure shes a good person, but Mother Theresa she aint.

just because they have had a rough time and forced into the shelter gives them the right to be assholes.
 

SludgeFactory

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I live in LA and have heard plenty of first hand accounts about shelters both with Katrina and Gustav. I'm not surprised at anything she said there. What an utterly thankless job, I'm sure she stayed on for 120 hours because she felt compelled to do it once she had started, because they were most likely desperate for help. Somehow I can't see too many people jumping and volunteering for this after what went on in the aftermath of Katrina.

These full scale coastal evacuations are a nightmare for this state (particularly for medical personnel at hospitals, but that's another story). As far as shelters go, there are simply not enough sizable cities and infrastructure in the northern and central parts of the state to comfortably accommodate many thousands of people who expect the government to cater to their every need. I'm not sure how the inter-state evacuations were carried out in neighboring states this time around, but I think a lot of Louisiana residents did a real good job of permanently wearing out their welcome in those places back in 2005.

All the bitching and griping this time has gotten the state Social Services chief thrown under the bus and forced out as of yesterday, because shelters weren't set up like the Ritz Carlton, and people had to wait in long lines for their emergency food stamps, or were too stupid to check if they were even eligible before waiting in said long lines and getting denied.
 

DrPizza

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There are a few rules I'd love to see passed...
Here's the first one: If you're in a mandatory evacuation area, and we have to come in and get you out of there, we're only moving you to the first place where it's safe to walk. We'll have the roads cleared & a path bulldozed to a shelter 24 miles inland. There will be a "rest stop" about every mile along the way where you can stop for a glass of water.
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: xochi
Why would anyone in their right mind volunteer to work 72 hours in a evacuee shelter and think the people their would behave rationally and sanely. Most had no other option and perhaps forced. Responsible folks drove far away and stayed in a hotel, or with freinds family. Thats like volunteering to work 72 hours in a homeless shelter and then complain that "those people" STEAL, DRINK ALCOHOL IRRISPONSIBLY AND FOR GODS SAKE SMELL BAD! well no shit.

I'm sure shes a good person, but Mother Theresa she aint.

I think you missed the points of the story/letter. She volunteered because of her knowledge as a RN <she worked 120 hrs and not 72> and her good heart <she also volunteered at her church).

She didn't like how those lazy scums treated her as slave/maid while they sat aound and didn't do a thing to HELP THEMSELVES.
and then had the nerve to bitch about the condition of the shelter <they had free transportation, free meals, free medicines, free every freaking things yet they were too lazy to pick up/clean up after themselves).

Let me ask you this, which one would you like to be in? <all of these people are poors)

1)Helping a bunch of lazy scums but they screamed and whined and sat around loitering and didn't even bother to say thanks.

2)Helping a bunch of poor people but they were smiling and saying thanks and willing to help out with tasks.

BEING POOR IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO ACT LIKE STUPID ANIMALS I am sure there will be a bunch of volunteers to help out next time....NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Svnla

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DrPizza - but but but...can you hear the whiners with all the excuses now? They were so poor and so helpless, let give them more money, more FEMA debit cards, and more free stuffs, after three years ...they need more help <money to be exact>.

Sludge - I couldn't agree more. Ask Houston people the nightmare and crimes in their city right after Katrina evacuees arrived.

Waggy/Chaotic - amen, being poor is NOT an excuse for not behave like a human being.

Nohr/Ns1/Taste- that what I mean, she gave up a bunch of cash to work for free. I edited the post.
 
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Ns1
120 hours as an RN in 7 days is about...

~7000 in earnings

"I am a nurse who has just completed volunteer working approximately 120 hours..."

Volunteer work generally means no pay.

....

It was a response to this

She volunteered for free and worked 120 hours in 7 days <she is a RN, 120 hours as a nurse = some serious money there>. How many hours did you work for free and had to put up with the entitlement attitude of those people? Well?? Just what I thought. :disgust:
Sorry. Missed that connection.

I agree.
 

Svnla

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Here are more:

http://arklatexhomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=35061 "There have been complaints about meals at the shelter. Hot soup, rice, vegetables and pasta isn't cutting it for some evacuees." ...<well, well, well, if you don't work, you DO NOT get to eat, how about that for a change?>


http://www.shreveporttimes.com...ticle?AID=200880903062 <you can get the ghetto gangsta wannabees out of the ghetto but you can't get them to behave like normal people.>

http://allnurses.com/forums/f3...shelters-332577-2.html <look like craps like this are not one time event>



 

waggy

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"If we have to evacuate again, I promise you from my heart, we are going to die in New Orleans," said Cobbins



great. sounds like a damn plan! stay and die. we taxpayers are tired of supporting yoru damn ass.
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: waggy
"If we have to evacuate again, I promise you from my heart, we are going to die in New Orleans," said Cobbins



great. sounds like a damn plan! stay and die. we taxpayers are tired of supporting yoru damn ass.

Wait, waggy, there is this one: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/pub...Id=l:845773535&start=5

"these people were not ready for us. They've had three years to get ready for us." <how about you get up your own lazy butt and get prepare YOURSELVE?" and the toilets were clean before you got there, do you known how to clean up AFTER YOURSELVE?>
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Svnla
DrPizza - but but but...can you hear the whiners with all the excuses now? They were so poor and so helpless, let give them more money, more FEMA debit cards, and more free stuffs, after three years ...they need more help <money to be exact>

I think it's time to set an example. People need to learn that there are consequences. They're stuck on their roof surrounded by flood waters? Need to call in the helicopters? I say drop down the same types of water filters that backpackers carry - you can pump water through them & it'll purify it. Drop down some water sanitizer tablets. Drop down some plastic mugs to hold water in. Drop down a few meals ready to eat. And, if you want the taxpayers to be really nice, drop down a bottle of sunscreen.

I have no problems with any level of assistance provided to people who are caught off-guard. I have no problem with providing assistance to the people who evacuated ahead of time. But, the level of support given to idiots who stayed behind? Clear a path and point in the direction of the shelters. Lots of people lost their possessions; for this, I feel bad. But, I have absolutely no feelings of pity toward the added problems these people are experiencing due to their decision to stay behind.

If someone was in a non-evacuation zip code & they need help evacuating the area? Sure, if I had the week off, I'd be happy to drive down and help them out myself.


 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: waggy
"If we have to evacuate again, I promise you from my heart, we are going to die in New Orleans," said Cobbins



great. sounds like a damn plan! stay and die. we taxpayers are tired of supporting yoru damn ass.

Wait, waggy, there is this one: http://www6.lexisnexis.com/pub...Id=l:845773535&start=5

"these people were not ready for us. They've had three years to get ready for us." <how about you get up your own lazy butt and get prepare YOURSELVE?" and the toilets were clean before you got there, do you known how to clean up AFTER YOURSELVE?>


oh sheesh.


 

maxcaleb

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Interesting thread, I received a long email from my semi-retired Mom last night, she volunteers for the Red Cross and is currently helping manage a shelter in Fort Worth for Ike evacuees from Beaumont TX.

I feel pretty bad for her, she makes it sound extremely grueling. I hope that her experience is not the norm, I worry that she might not volunteer for something of this magnitude again.

Here is something interesting she wrote:

"...some don't want to go home, this place is nicer than where they came from with three good meals a day..."