"Remarkable piece of technology" mentioned on ABC news being used by FBI during investigation

Valhalla1

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just heard a guest on ABC news mention a "remarkable piece of technology" that the FBI is using in the investigation to discover who the people involved in the attack have been in communication with, but he said he couldn't talk about it.


big brother is watching everyone.
 

Valhalla1

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sounds to me like they have a way to track every phone call or internet email these people made recently
 

DAWeinG

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Some MIB stuff >=) Hey it could happen... They are, literally MIB and WIB...
 

MajesticMoose

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I liked how one of the news stations (don't remember which) was apologizing because there very new technology (the video phone) was acting up. Considering there are two intances of the same technology sitting in my dorm room, I wasn't too impressed.

m00se
 

Doggiedog

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I've actually seen it in use through a misquote at my co many years ago.

An Israeli managing director (and also a Colonel in the Israeli defense force) was on a conference call to our company from his vacation home in Maine. Somebody asked him a stupid question about something. Then he replied that is stupid its like ass........ing the pres...ent or something to that regard.

It so happened that the then President Bush Sr. was also vacationing in Kennebunkport Maine. The FBI picked up this MD's cellular transmission and his middle eastern accent along with those 2 words and bam in 10 mins there were secret service agents knocking on his door. They interrogated him for 6 hours.

This actually happened. I think that may be the technology you are talking about.
 

The Dancing Peacock

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i've heard one called carnivore, and one called echelon. Not sure what they do. but shh, "they're listening" Hell, this post is probably redflagged because those words are in it....:Q
 

MeanMeosh

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yea, its infrared technology that can detect heat through rocks and shows images clearly enough to show the difference between different kinds of leaves (fuzzy still). they busted some guy for growing marijuana inside his house using that, but the judge threw it out because it was done without a warrant. if i remember correctly, it can be only used with a warrant and all the normal rules that apply to a search warrant apply to this.
 

Balt

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Yeah, I wondered about that stuff myself. At this point I'm prepared to not criticize it, however. There will be a better time and place to complain about the govt's invasion of privacy.

Besides, anyone who thinks that their cell phone calls are private isn't the brightest crayon in the box. You might as well be talking over a CB. ;)
 

kamiam

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<< sounds to me like they have a way to track every phone call or internet email these people made recently >>


the dancing peacock hit it on the head
 

MeanMeosh

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<< dude, lol. you saw that in a movie man... that ain't true. >>



no really... i live in East Texas when i'm not in college, that's like the marijuana growing capital of the world, i know like all the current news on that.... i'm serious... that was a big thing some time ago...
 

MadRat

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Infrared doesn't see through the walls, dork. The house that got busted had huge heat pockets in the basement. The police could NOT see what actually was happening in the house. Sheesh, get your urban myth-believing butt caught up to reality.
 

Pyroclazm

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so they can see through rocks? hmmm in otherwords maybe if he jumps in a volcano they wont find where he is hiding then
 

Mytv

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Anything related to the internet is monitored with such systems as carnivore from email to instant messaging from port 1 to 65000 of any computer system.

Only way around is via encryption[blowfish, rsa, verisign, ssl, ssh, pgp], only downside is the bad guys can use the encryption programs.

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kamiam

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<< Infrared doesn't see through the walls, dork. The house that got busted had huge heat pockets in the basement. The police could NOT see what actually was happening in the house. Sheesh, get your urban myth-believing butt caught up to reality. >>

think again...I just saw a report that showed some new technology that can pretty much see thru clothing and at least see the body sculpture or the texture of your body under the clothing... the images sorta look like how someone looks naked in the dark
 

Mytv

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Or as easily use the Hubble telescope that zooms millions of light years away to zoom in on a freckle on someone face.

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<< think again...I just saw a report that showed some new technology that can pretty much see thru clothing and at least see the body sculpture or the texture of your body under the clothing... the images sorta look like how someone looks naked in the dark >>



The current infared technology can't do that. That would be considered something other than infared
 

kamiam

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RAGINGBITCH... I believe I'm right..they recently reported on the technology within the last month...I saw the pix's of what it looked like to "see" thru this technology ...although it may have been ultrasound...I will admit I cant be sure of which ..it showed a person on one side of a door and someone else on the other using the technology...it was good enough to be able to tell the gender of the person on the other side of the door
 

etech

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"here's something on Carnivore that etech gave me. "

Oh hell, now I'm on their list too. ;)

Wasn't it one of the early Sony 8mm camcorders that had a low light function that was found to "see through clothing". I know I saw a site on it once but can't remember if it was just rumor or true.

Kamiam, there's a difference between "seeing" through clothing and seeing through a wall with IR technology.

They can aim a laser at a window and record conversations though. Has to do with the panes vibrating with the voices.