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litwicki22

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Hello.I have 980 Ti reference, no oc. I have a question.

When i am on 353.06 DRIVERS 3DMARK 11 DEMO is randomly crashing my display DRIVER and giving me dx11 errors. "nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered".
When i change to 353.38 beta then its stable and no crashing.
I was thinking that stable card dont crash on all drivers.
Is this reason to RMA card? Thx for any suggestions. Please give me good suggestion to rma card or not?
 

litwicki22

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Somebody said to me" "If the game crashes to desktop due to an Nvidia driver error, it is coming from the card. " So my card is just unstable on 353.06 or what? Thx for explain me.
 

Sabrewings

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They meant it's coming from something in the graphics area. Either the card or the driver for the card. That eliminates other drivers, game bugs, or memory issues.

If it works now without crashes, then it was a driver problem which is why Nvidia released the hotfix.
 

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Hey again. Last question . It crashes display driver or dx11 errors in 3dmark 11DEMO on 353.06 . But not on 353.38 whql. On 353.38 all is fine.


Somebody said to me:"Hello, the main problem with latest drivers is that are very sensitive to unstable hardware, what i mean with unstable, well, a bad OC, on CPU, memory or GPU, no matter if is a factory OC, an unstable PSU.
353.06 is more sensitive than 353.38, as nvidia stated after testing some user machines on their labs, they found that some machines have problems with the timmings that they set in latest drivers; the cuetion is that the more fine tuned are these timmings, the system will become less tolerable to fluctuations."


Is this because 353.06 is more sensitive to unstable hardware or it is just driver problem?
So if this is true ,my system is unstable of some way?
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Hey again. Last question . It crashes display driver or dx11 errors in 3dmark 11DEMO on 353.06 . But not on 353.38 whql. On 353.38 all is fine.


Somebody said to me:"Hello, the main problem with latest drivers is that are very sensitive to unstable hardware, what i mean with unstable, well, a bad OC, on CPU, memory or GPU, no matter if is a factory OC, an unstable PSU.
353.06 is more sensitive than 353.38, as nvidia stated after testing some user machines on their labs, they found that some machines have problems with the timmings that they set in latest drivers; the cuetion is that the more fine tuned are these timmings, the system will become less tolerable to fluctuations."


Is this because 353.06 is more sensitive to unstable hardware or it is just driver problem?
So if this is true ,my system is unstable of some way?

The latest version available at the NVidia Support/Download pages is 353.30.

Howsoever that may be, or whether or not you downloaded the proper driver from the most reliable source, you should reinstall the driver. Ordinarily I'd advise to uninstall the old version, optionally run something like CCleaner, reboot and reinstall from scratch. But NVidia, through the program component GeForce Experience, will allow you to select "Custom" over "Express" and then click the checkbox for "Clean Install."

Then let's see where you are.

Another thing. 3DMark 11 is not the appropriate version for a GTX 970 or 980 card. You need the more recent 3DMark with FireStrike, FS Extreme and FS Ultra.

I feel slightly unsure about this because it was on the periphery of my focus for absorbing information. But I'd read something recently to say that 3DMark 11 either doesn't work on this-gen cards, causes instability, or doesn't adequately put the video card(s) through their paces. Or . . . several of that.
 
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litwicki22

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But somebody said to me this, read:"The latest drivers before 353.38 are very sensitive to system stability issues, the problem is not driver itself (referring specifically to TDRs), the driver optimizations just make evident the problem that up to that moment passed unperceived for the affected people; if driver was the problem then all people that install the drivers would have suffered this problem, and that's not the case (even if there are hundreds persons complaining about that problem, there are thousands that don't have it), the majority of people that suffer TDRs have some kind of stability problem, no matter that they deny to admit or accept that fact."





So he thinking that i have unstable card if it crashing in 3dmark 11 demo in sensitive 353.06 . But not crashing in 353.38 .

But what you think guys?
 

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He's full of crap. I've seen lots of driver issues over the years (not just GPUs) that only affect a select few. It could be a GPU/chipset combination issue, a GPU/software issue, etc. To say that because not everyone is experiencing it at the same time there must be stability issues is incredibly ignorant. If driver issues affected everyone they wouldn't make it out of the lab.
 
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litwicki22

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So using 353.06 & 353.30 both crashes display driver randomly in 3dmark 11 demo extreme. Installed 353.38 hotfix resolved issue, no crashes.

But i must to ask.

Is something with my card if it crashes display driver on both drivers in 3dmark 11 ( 353.06 and 353.30 ) ?

My card is Gigabyte 980 Ti reference, no oc.
 

AdamK47

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Just about anything can crash the NVidia drivers and cause them to recover. Game code, driver code, bad CPU overclocks, bad memory overclocks, and everything else that interacts with the driver.
 

litwicki22

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Somebody said to me:""The latest drivers before 353.38 are very sensitive to system stability issues, the majority of people that suffer TDRs have some kind of stability problem"

According to up.

So 353.06 & 353.30 are just sensitive and find that i have unstable graphic card or what?


353.06 & 353.30 - dont know why but it crashing driver in 3dmark 11 ( even sometimes in loading screen ) , but games no crashing
353.38 - stable ,no crashing in 3dmark 11 and games still no crashing

Rma card or not?
 

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No, and we are not going any further with this discussion. Use the search engine or Google because there is nothing wrong with your card. It has been repeated to you multiple times across many graphics cards over the years.

-Rvenger
 
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