The funny thing is..that most of the people here on ATOT who claim inconsistencies of the Bible,etc have never 1) Read it fully - AT LEAST once 2) Studied it deeper than reading it once or twice. To even start studying aspects of it would be a lifetimes work. Knowing Greek, Hebrew, bibllical culture, customs,history, etc. If you're gonna bash it, at least have SOME semblance of having studied it. Don't be a mindless drone who believes everything they hear and follows Christian/Bible bashing blindly without knowledge.
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Okay..say it with me...PARABOLE.
You know...those stories to bring a point across?
I believe the story of adam and eve was there to show to us how evil women are
self-pwnage is great
sue me...i'm french.
edit: nik and rossman can attest to it
If you had said you were a female, I would skype you in a second. Except that I'm waiting for a real phone call and ahd to end the conversation with RossMAN and Nik cuz of that.
lol, sad sad sad....you just interested in using skype with women?
No, but french accents on women = :heart:
french girls from quebec or france?
France. French people from Quebec are like English people from America
Exactly. I've only been seriously studying it for approximately 8-9 years and I've only uncovered a miniscule amount of information. More Christians need to know why they believe and what exactly they believe. However, the more I do - it just uncovers things that happen to strengthen my faith even more and at the same time I realize just how little I know.
How many of those who are "anti" Bible or Christian are willing to NOT follow their "faith" of blind rejection and disbelief without having some substantial study in the area?
:thumbsup:
you cant even START to prove it wrong until you master the languages mentioned above, and have an EXTENSIVE backround in history, customs, culture, etc.
What if you met Jesus? Or would that be cheating or against the rules, since you're trying to prove something against him?
Well, it seems that the OP's pursuit of knowledge is more to disprove that certain things happened, so would it still be considered a pursuit of knowledge? IMHO, trying to prove the bible wrong is just one step towards the pursuit of ignorance/arrogance. Humans can't be the highest form of life/intelligence/whatever, otherwise we're fvcked.
You can't prove it wrong because its basic premise is something you either agree with, or consider to be an enormous scam.
If I tell a little kid who believes there is a tooth fairy, and the kid stubbornly decides to believe it, what do I do? I could reasonably tell him that I supply him the money, and the kid could pick up a penny off the street, present it to me, and tell me that the penny was from the tooth fairy, and that the tooth fairy works in mysterious ways.
Either way, once your mind is made up, it is difficult for anyone to change their mind about God and it's existence. People are just not reasonable about these things.
Religious Person - "I can't believe he doesn't see God's existence! I see it every day in the beauty of our world, and I can feel God blah blah blah"
Non Religion Person - "I can't believe those people are so delusional! The crazy FUNdamentals are taking over my country and trying to force their agenda on me through blah blah blah blah blah"
Anyways, I've gone off on a tangent, and I think I'll abruptly end my post here.
Malak
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Well, that all depends on what you are trying to prove and how open the person is. There are people that still believe the world is flat, and no amount of "proof" will convince them otherwise. They won't even acknowledge it as proof, and so anything I could show will meet the same fate.
While not a direct answer to your question, you might find the following quiz interesting:
http://dir.salon.com/people/feature/2001/10/24/book_quiz/index.html
It's an international bestseller featuring the life and sayings of a
charismatic leader and self-styled prophet. It's also a book whose
words have been used to justify the march of armies and the slaughter
of innocents. But is it the Bible, the Quran or "Mein Kampf"?
Identify which of the three books contains the following passages:
1. The fearful and unbelieving and the abominable and murderers and
whoremongers and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars shall have
their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.
2. Endless ruin has overtaken the enemy, you have uprooted their
cities; even the memory of them has perished.
3. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord
commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and
contributes to the expulsion from paradise.
4. We will drive the guilty to hell thirsty.
5. He that believeth not shall be damned.
6. As for these towns, we destroyed them when they acted unjustly, and
we have appointed a time for their destruction.
7. Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou
hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord,
bless our battle.
8. I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not,
but are the synagogue of Satan.
9. Wherever you are, death will overtake you, though you are in lofty towers.
10. Gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will
come when man will again bow down before a higher god.
11. Those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so we said
to them: Be as apes, despised and hated.
12. The punishment shall be doubled to him on the day of resurrection,
and he shall abide therein in abasement.
13. Verily a man cannot serve two masters.
14. Their sword will become our plow, and from the tears of war the
daily bread of future generations will grow.
15. The prophet seldom has any honor in his own country.
http://dir.salon.com/people/feature/2001/10/24/book_quiz/index.html
It's an international bestseller featuring the life and sayings of a
charismatic leader and self-styled prophet. It's also a book whose
words have been used to justify the march of armies and the slaughter
of innocents. But is it the Bible, the Quran or "Mein Kampf"?
Identify which of the three books contains the following passages:
1. The fearful and unbelieving and the abominable and murderers and
whoremongers and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars shall have
their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.
2. Endless ruin has overtaken the enemy, you have uprooted their
cities; even the memory of them has perished.
3. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord
commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and
contributes to the expulsion from paradise.
4. We will drive the guilty to hell thirsty.
5. He that believeth not shall be damned.
6. As for these towns, we destroyed them when they acted unjustly, and
we have appointed a time for their destruction.
7. Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou
hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord,
bless our battle.
8. I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not,
but are the synagogue of Satan.
9. Wherever you are, death will overtake you, though you are in lofty towers.
10. Gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will
come when man will again bow down before a higher god.
11. Those among you who exceeded the limits of the Sabbath, so we said
to them: Be as apes, despised and hated.
12. The punishment shall be doubled to him on the day of resurrection,
and he shall abide therein in abasement.
13. Verily a man cannot serve two masters.
14. Their sword will become our plow, and from the tears of war the
daily bread of future generations will grow.
15. The prophet seldom has any honor in his own country.
If you are going to critique any kind of literary work, you should at least start with having a very good understanding of it. This kind of work generally starts with reading the book, research, and drawing some educated conclusions.
Writing a paper with the intent to discredit something you are not even familiar with is not a very good approach. It doesn't even make sence. If you do write something decent then please post it for peer review
Writing a paper with the intent to discredit something you are not even familiar with is not a very good approach. It doesn't even make sence. If you do write something decent then please post it for peer review
Originally posted by: everman
If you are going to critique any kind of literary work, you should at least start with having a very good understanding of it. This kind of work generally starts with reading the book, research, and drawing some educated conclusions.
Writing a paper with the intent to discredit something you are not even familiar with is not a very good approach. It doesn't even make sence. If you do write something decent then please post it for peer review
:thumbsup:
Yes reading the bible first would be best before bashing it. :Q
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
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The word you're probably looking for is "omniscient," as it means "all-knowing" and the question refers to knowledge. Omnipotence refers to unlimited power.
And the answer is yes, assuming, of course, that there is a God, and that this God is omniscient.
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