Religious extremist website?

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Sadly you cannot argue with people like that.

It's also pretty hard to forbid people like this to have kids, so there will most likely be some extremist offspring too.
 

BradAtWork

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

While I totally agree this proves all religious people are stupid.

How is believing this crap any more strange than believing a virgin gave birth to the son of god. Hello! Are you people listening to yourselves!

If you had never heard of religion and someone gave you a bible, and said it was true, you would think they're are totally crazy.

Guess what, they are.
 
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Originally posted by: BradAtWork
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

While I totally agree this proves all religious people are stupid.

How is believing this crap any more strange than believing a virgin gave birth to the son of god. Hello! Are you people listening to yourselves!

If you had never heard of religion and someone gave you a bible, and said it was true, you would think they're are totally crazy.

Guess what, they are.

Don't bother. Religious hypocrites will look down their noses and lunatics like the author of this website while at the same time believing with every ounce of their conviction in fantastic stories void of evidence. It's the ultimate in doublethink.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

Lifer
Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: BradAtWork
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

While I totally agree this proves all religious people are stupid.

How is believing this crap any more strange than believing a virgin gave birth to the son of god. Hello! Are you people listening to yourselves!

If you had never heard of religion and someone gave you a bible, and said it was true, you would think they're are totally crazy.

Guess what, they are.

You can look at the positive side too: At least he doesn't believe in Scientology ;)
 

effowe

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Nov 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Don't bother. Religious hypocrites will look down their noses and lunatics like the author of this website while at the same time believing with every ounce of their conviction in fantastic stories void of evidence. It's the ultimate in doublethink.

Err.. did anyone else find this custom title weird?

GodlessAstronomer
iamaelephant
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: effowe
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Don't bother. Religious hypocrites will look down their noses and lunatics like the author of this website while at the same time believing with every ounce of their conviction in fantastic stories void of evidence. It's the ultimate in doublethink.

Err.. did anyone else find this custom title weird?

GodlessAstronomer
iamaelephant

That's what happens when you hang your hat in P&N too often, lol.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

One point he makes might be a little valid. The point about exaggerated distances in outer space.

There has been some recent scientific debates about the accuracy of the red shift theories. While this links to a religious based site, it seems to have a lot of the problems about red shifts listed in an easy to digest manner.

The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems

This is more technically motivated and further documents the red shift controversies. The following also links to further redshift errata.

Quasars as Ejection Phenomena, and the Redshift Controversy
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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I didn't wander around too much in that site...I felt my IQ drop 40 poiints when I opened the link...and I CAN'T spare any of them IQ's...but does he espouse the "Man walked with the dinosaurs" theory?

"I sawed it on the TeeVee...Fred and Barney had a dina-sore fer a pet, so it gotts ta be true!"
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

One point he makes might be a little valid. The point about exaggerated distances in outer space.

There has been some recent scientific debates about the accuracy of the red shift theories. While this links to a religious based site, it seems to have a lot of the problems about red shifts listed in an easy to digest manner.

The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems

This is more technically motivated and further documents the red shift controversies. The following also links to further redshift errata.

Quasars as Ejection Phenomena, and the Redshift Controversy

This website makes the claim that distances within our solar system are exaggerated. These distances are not measured using redshoft, but have been independently verified using numerous methods including bouncing radar signals, parallax, direct measurement (probes) and direct calculation using well established laws of physics, among other methods. But I'm sure this is part of the vast sun-centered conspiracy.

As for redshifts, have you actually looked at those ridiculous websites you posted? Wow. You're going to have to do better than that.
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

One point he makes might be a little valid. The point about exaggerated distances in outer space.

There has been some recent scientific debates about the accuracy of the red shift theories. While this links to a religious based site, it seems to have a lot of the problems about red shifts listed in an easy to digest manner.

The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems

This is more technically motivated and further documents the red shift controversies. The following also links to further redshift errata.

Quasars as Ejection Phenomena, and the Redshift Controversy

The first link is nothing more than a joke.
 

SlickSnake

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May 29, 2007
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

One point he makes might be a little valid. The point about exaggerated distances in outer space.

There has been some recent scientific debates about the accuracy of the red shift theories. While this links to a religious based site, it seems to have a lot of the problems about red shifts listed in an easy to digest manner.

The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems

This is more technically motivated and further documents the red shift controversies. The following also links to further redshift errata.

Quasars as Ejection Phenomena, and the Redshift Controversy

This website makes the claim that distances within our solar system are exaggerated. These distances are not measured using redshoft, but have been independently verified using numerous methods including bouncing radar signals, parallax, direct measurement (probes) and direct calculation using well established laws of physics, among other methods. But I'm sure this is part of the vast sun-centered conspiracy.

As for redshifts, have you actually looked at those ridiculous websites you posted? Wow. You're going to have to do better than that.

Check out the new links about radar accurately verifying galactic distances above 100 light years. Planets, yes. Galaxies, no. Probes, sorry, no probes in a nearby solar system or galaxy to verify its actual distance. Not yet. And abstract mathematical calculations devined using sorcery that some college head case made up where they have to speculate random numbers to properly fill the equations out and make them viable for galactic distances? Once again, no. These formulas do work for close proximity distances, like between planets where the calculations are not based on speculative numbers and hokus-pocus though. So you will ultimately fail in your galactic distance observations. Just because a professor who smokes a lot of weed says it's so, does not make it so. The last link admits that there is no concrete way of measuring the galactic distances at this time.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/overview/DistanceGalactic.html">Galactic Distances through Parallax
</a>

Distances to the Sun and Stars

Here was an interesting link I just dug up about radar mapping nearby solar system planets. Note it is just for mapping a few 10s of light years away, and requires 2 satellites to retrieve the radar data, one near Mercury and one beyond Jupiter.

A radar for the exploration of exstrasolar planets






 

Skyclad1uhm1

Lifer
Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I didn't wander around too much in that site...I felt my IQ drop 40 poiints when I opened the link...and I CAN'T spare any of them IQ's...but does he espouse the "Man walked with the dinosaurs" theory?

"I sawed it on the TeeVee...Fred and Barney had a dina-sore fer a pet, so it gotts ta be true!"

Hadn't looked around much further either, but it is worth it!

Columbus did not discover Amerika, and Amerigo (whom it was named after) never visited it!

Of course Justice Story did not know that it was the initial voyages of Cabot to the New World that caused Spain to send Columbus in order to preempt the great Venetian Discoverer....The LEGEND of Christopher Columbus only began in the U.S. following the fall of the Papal States in 1870.

We understand that the New World was inhabited by millions of people thousands of years before Cabot's Discovery. The first people to arrive here were the descendants of Noah who came a few hundred years after the nations were scattered at the Tower of Babel. The first settlers might have been blown across a then much smaller ocean by a hurricane or simply fishermen in search of fish.

Later on the Phoenicians came here and we know that the Egyptians built the pyramids in Mexico. Around the year 600 A.D., Hibernian (Irish) missionaries came here in order to preach true Christianity to the natives. The merciless, mercenary Vikings came here too but they followed the Irish missionaries in order to kill them and destroy their work.
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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This isn't any more insane than creationism, yet creationists make up about 50% of America.

Hell, our current president is one of them
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
If this is real he should be locked up in a mental institute.

Can't imagine someone being this dumb though :p

One point he makes might be a little valid. The point about exaggerated distances in outer space.

There has been some recent scientific debates about the accuracy of the red shift theories. While this links to a religious based site, it seems to have a lot of the problems about red shifts listed in an easy to digest manner.

The Big Bang and Redshift Theories Have Many Big Flaws, Errors and Problems

This is more technically motivated and further documents the red shift controversies. The following also links to further redshift errata.

Quasars as Ejection Phenomena, and the Redshift Controversy

This website makes the claim that distances within our solar system are exaggerated. These distances are not measured using redshoft, but have been independently verified using numerous methods including bouncing radar signals, parallax, direct measurement (probes) and direct calculation using well established laws of physics, among other methods. But I'm sure this is part of the vast sun-centered conspiracy.

As for redshifts, have you actually looked at those ridiculous websites you posted? Wow. You're going to have to do better than that.

Check out the new links about radar accurately verifying galactic distances above 100 light years. Planets, yes. Galaxies, no. Probes, sorry, no probes in a nearby solar system or galaxy to verify its actual distance. Not yet. And abstract mathematical calculations devined using sorcery that some college head case made up where they have to speculate random numbers to properly fill the equations out and make them viable for galactic distances? Once again, no. These formulas do work for close proximity distances, like between planets where the calculations are not based on speculative numbers and hokus-pocus though. So you will ultimately fail in your galactic distance observations. Just because a professor who smokes a lot of weed says it's so, does not make it so. The last link admits that there is no concrete way of measuring the galactic distances at this time.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/overview/DistanceGalactic.html">Galactic Distances through Parallax
</a>

Distances to the Sun and Stars

Here was an interesting link I just dug up about radar mapping nearby solar system planets. Note it is just for mapping a few 10s of light years away, and requires 2 satellites to retrieve the radar data, one near Mercury and one beyond Jupiter.

A radar for the exploration of exstrasolar planets

You linked to www.biblelife.org to point out 'errors' with red shift, and the big bang theory?
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I didn't wander around too much in that site...I felt my IQ drop 40 poiints when I opened the link...and I CAN'T spare any of them IQ's...but does he espouse the "Man walked with the dinosaurs" theory?

"I sawed it on the TeeVee...Fred and Barney had a dina-sore fer a pet, so it gotts ta be true!"

Hadn't looked around much further either, but it is worth it!

Columbus did not discover Amerika, and Amerigo (whom it was named after) never visited it!

Of course Justice Story did not know that it was the initial voyages of Cabot to the New World that caused Spain to send Columbus in order to preempt the great Venetian Discoverer....The LEGEND of Christopher Columbus only began in the U.S. following the fall of the Papal States in 1870.

We understand that the New World was inhabited by millions of people thousands of years before Cabot's Discovery. The first people to arrive here were the descendants of Noah who came a few hundred years after the nations were scattered at the Tower of Babel. The first settlers might have been blown across a then much smaller ocean by a hurricane or simply fishermen in search of fish.

Later on the Phoenicians came here and we know that the Egyptians built the pyramids in Mexico. Around the year 600 A.D., Hibernian (Irish) missionaries came here in order to preach true Christianity to the natives. The merciless, mercenary Vikings came here too but they followed the Irish missionaries in order to kill them and destroy their work.

Almost sounds like he's telling the great Mormon Fairy Tale of Jeezus rolled back the rock on the tomb, caught a 747 to the new world and spread his gospel to the Lamanites...:roll: