Religion of Peace

[Victorian Gray]

Wow..you sound like a complacent moron that accepts what ISIS does. :thumbsdown:
possibly supports?

What? You're still here? Aren't you off to Syria to destroy Daesh yet?

 

[schmuckley]

Belief in God? Please don't use the word God so casually.

It's all politics and personal gains. There is absolutely no religion or God in this. If you want it to be about religion, then all the power to you. I guess its more entertaining that way?

By the way, no one really believes in God. If they did, the world wouldn't be what it is. They only believe in personal gain and selfish motives.

No religion? What do you call killing 20 Christians in the name of Allah? You must be on some serious drugs.

 

[nickqt]

The way you try to marginalize what these people do is deplorable.
It doesn't need "Demonization" ..it's demonic enough already.
Apparently "moral relativity" worked on you.

All muslims commit deplorable and demonic acts, and they should all be watched ever so closely?

Again, what is your final solution for the Muslim question?

Do you think they should wear identifiers, such as badges with a crescent moon and star so that we can defend ourselves when out in public amongst them?

Since you're ready to go and take at least 3 with you before dying, have you made any plans on how you're going to do that, besides selling your possessions?

 

[Victorian Gray]

The way you try to marginalize what these people do is deplorable.
It doesn't need "Demonization" ..it's demonic enough already.
Apparently "moral relativity" worked on you.

Did you read that in a Glen Beck book?

Started packing for your war yet?

 

[schmuckley]

All muslims commit deplorable and demonic acts, and they should all be watched ever so closely?

Again, what is your final solution for the Muslim question?

Do you think they should wear identifiers, such as badges with a crescent moon and star so that we can defend ourselves when out in public amongst them?

Since you're ready to go and take at least 3 with you before dying, have you made any plans on how you're going to do that, besides selling your possessions?

a) I never said that.
b) That's not necessary,they are easily identifiable.
c) Do you have any plans to stop this type of tragedy from happening again?

Are you even willing to take any type of action at all?
or are you here to criticize me?
and have no empathy for your fellow human beings?

PS: I posted a partiality of my plan in the "other" thread.

 

[raildogg]

No religion? What do you call killing 20 Christians in the name of Allah? You must be on some serious drugs.

So some people use Allah's name to kill other people. That doesn't say anything about the religion. It says something about the people. They are following their own selfish motives to do the killing.

Anything can incite anyone to do bad. It is the fault of the person who is incited first and foremost. This is not to say that Islam is inciting or is not. I don't know. I just know that the deeper meaning of these religions (Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, etc) is not understood by the average (99%) person.

And please, don't you see the hypocrisy?

Your so-called "Christian" countries are stocked with thousands of nuclear weapons and the latest weapons money can buy. Yet here you are in fear over a few thousand guys blindly following some other blind guy.

There are no good guys in this world. No side has its hands clean. We're all in this mess together. Either we die together or we live together.

 

[schmuckley]

So some people use Allah's name to kill other people. That doesn't say anything about the religion. It says something about the people. They are following their own selfish motives to do the killing.

Anything can incite anyone to do bad. It is the fault of the person who is incited first and foremost. This is not to say that Islam is inciting or is not. I don't know. I just know that the deeper meaning of these religions (Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, etc) is not understood by the average (99%) person.

And please, don't you see the hypocrisy?

Your so-called "Christian" countries are stocked with thousands of nuclear weapons and the latest weapons money can buy. Yet here you are in fear over a few thousand guys blindly following some other blind guy.

There are no good guys in this world. No side has its hands clean. We're all in this mess together. Either we die together or we live together.

Post me a link to the last time there was a mass-murder in the name of Jesus.
So you have zero empathy for 20 people getting killed.
Anything you may post after this has zero relevance,IMO.

 

[raildogg]

Forget about not being on the same page, we're not even on the same binder.

But have a good night though.

 

[schmuckley]

Forget about not being on the same page, we're not even on the same binder.

But have a good night though.

We are definitely not.
You view this as something humanistic and political.
also marginal.
I view it as something religious and human.
also good and evil.
What they did was evil;They need to be dealt with.
0 leadership in US.
This really should not be as big of a problem as it is..
but it is..because dear leader says "It's the jv team"
way to underestimate,Mr.
or condone..
personally I feel it's "condone"
Egypt feels the same way,from what I gather.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Post me a link to the last time there was a mass-murder in the name of Jesus.
So you have zero empathy for 20 people getting killed.
Anything you may post after this has zero relevance,IMO.

Here's one:

Christian militiamen kill 70 Muslims in Central African Republic

Anti-Balaka militiamen slaughtered Muslims in village of Guen earlier this month, according to Catholic priest who helped bury bodies.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...l_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html

How about this:

"Throughout January 2014 and the first week of February, thousands of Muslim families from towns with sizable Muslim populations – Bossangoa, Bozoum, Bouca, Yaloké, Mbaiki, Bossembélé, and others in the northwest and southwest – fled horrific anti-balaka attacks. Yaloké, a major gold trading center, had an estimated Muslim population of 30,000 and eight mosques prior to the conflict. When Human Rights Watch visited on February 6, fewer than 500 Muslims and one mosque remained. Muslim residents gathered at the mosque, protected by French peacekeepers, while Christian militias and residents looted and destroyed their homes and mosque"

and

"The anti-balaka have conducted coordinated attacks on Muslim neighborhoods since September 2013. The attacks include horrific and brutal assaults, including on women and children, against Muslims trapped by fighting or trying to flee. Anti-balaka forces have cut the throats of Muslim civilians, publicly lynching, mutilating, and setting their bodies on fire. Human Rights Watch researchers have witnessed some of these atrocities."

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/02/12/central-african-republic-muslims-forced-flee

and:

"More than 50 Muslims were killed in two attacks investigated by Amnesty International in villages north-west of the capital, Bangui. The victims include at least six children, five women, and three old men. Two girls, aged seven and 18 months, were the youngest victims; the oldest was 70."

"Both attacks were carried out by Christian anti-balaka militias, which now wield effective power in many of the towns and villages northwest of the capital."

"The two towns, Boyali and Bossembele, like several others in the region, are now entirely empty of their Muslim populations, which fled in fear of their lives. Amnesty International delegates found that houses in Muslim neighbourhoods in both towns had been looted and burned. Some anti-balaka members in the area were wearing looted Muslim caps and clothing."

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/car-50-muslims-killed-2014-01-24

 

[Victorian Gray]

We are definitely not.
You view this as something humanistic and political.
also marginal.
I view it as something religious and human.
also good and evil.
What they did was evil;They need to be dealt with.
0 leadership in US.
This really should not be as big of a problem as it is..
but it is..because dear leader says "It's the jv team"
way to underestimate,Mr.
or condone..
personally I feel it's "condone"
Egypt fells the same way,from what I gather.

Have you purchased your ticket to Syria yet?

 

[schmuckley]

Here's one:

Christian militiamen kill 70 Muslims in Central African Republic

Anti-Balaka militiamen slaughtered Muslims in village of Guen earlier this month, according to Catholic priest who helped bury bodies.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...l_70_muslims_in_central_african_republic.html

How about this:

"Throughout January 2014 and the first week of February, thousands of Muslim families from towns with sizable Muslim populations – Bossangoa, Bozoum, Bouca, Yaloké, Mbaiki, Bossembélé, and others in the northwest and southwest – fled horrific anti-balaka attacks. Yaloké, a major gold trading center, had an estimated Muslim population of 30,000 and eight mosques prior to the conflict. When Human Rights Watch visited on February 6, fewer than 500 Muslims and one mosque remained. Muslim residents gathered at the mosque, protected by French peacekeepers, while Christian militias and residents looted and destroyed their homes and mosque"

and

"The anti-balaka have conducted coordinated attacks on Muslim neighborhoods since September 2013. The attacks include horrific and brutal assaults, including on women and children, against Muslims trapped by fighting or trying to flee. Anti-balaka forces have cut the throats of Muslim civilians, publicly lynching, mutilating, and setting their bodies on fire. Human Rights Watch researchers have witnessed some of these atrocities."

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/02/12/central-african-republic-muslims-forced-flee

and:

"More than 50 Muslims were killed in two attacks investigated by Amnesty International in villages north-west of the capital, Bangui. The victims include at least six children, five women, and three old men. Two girls, aged seven and 18 months, were the youngest victims; the oldest was 70."

"Both attacks were carried out by Christian anti-balaka militias, which now wield effective power in many of the towns and villages northwest of the capital."

"The two towns, Boyali and Bossembele, like several others in the region, are now entirely empty of their Muslim populations, which fled in fear of their lives. Amnesty International delegates found that houses in Muslim neighbourhoods in both towns had been looted and burned. Some anti-balaka members in the area were wearing looted Muslim caps and clothing."

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/car-50-muslims-killed-2014-01-24

Any direct quotes to "In the name of Jesus"?
umm..no.
You know how I know that?
because it doesn't happen like that.
You..in particular..normally have your colon wrapped around your head..
This instance is no exception.
Why not dredge up Kosovo while you're at it?
owait..maybe you never knew..
Sarajevo?
I suppose I'd be wrong to wish you'd just freeze up there.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Any direct quotes to "In the name of Jesus"?
umm..no.
You know how I know that?
because it doesn't happen like that.
You..in particular..normally have your colon wrapped around your head..
This instance is no exception.

I knew that your reaction would be

And that's because you are the epitome of, wait for it

a willfully ignorant bigot.

Can't say as I've ever seen anyone revel in their ignorance quite like you though. You seem to take such pride in it. <shrug>

Ordered that ticket to Syria yet?

 

[schmuckley]

bigot.

I know how you roll.
That may come.
What are going to do? Insult me? Like you haven't done that ..20+ times
Here's the fucks I give 0
You offer 0 help to the problem,you insult people.
What good do you do?
Any proof things were done in the name of Jesus? no
You suck..donkey balls

 

[Victorian Gray]

I know how you roll.
That may come.
What are going to do? Insult me?
Here's the fucks I give 0
You offer 0 help to the problem,you insult people.
What good do you do?
Any proof things were done in the name of Jesus? no
You suck..donkey balls

When you act in an ignorant, dishonest and bigoted manner, to have that pointed out is not an insult. It's a simple truth. When you stop reveling in your ignorance and bigotry I'll attempt to treat what you have to say seriously.

As for offering help. what the hell have you offered other than insults to Muslims and to the people who point out that your crap is crap. Oh yeah, you also made an internet tough guy 'threat' to go and kill some Daesh.

As for donkey balls

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/...deep-fried-rocky-mountain-oysters-recipe.html

 

[schmuckley]

When you act in an ignorant, dishonest and bigoted manner, to have that pointed out is not an insult. It's a simple truth. When you stop reveling in your ignorance and bigotry I'll attempt to treat what you have to say seriously.

As for offering help. what the hell have you offered other than insults to Muslims and to the people who point out that your crap is crap. Oh yeah, you also made an internet tough guy 'threat' to go and kill some Daesh.

As for donkey balls

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/...deep-fried-rocky-mountain-oysters-recipe.html

You have zero credible data and the term "bigot" in every single post.
I see you like to eat donkey balls..ok..
I'm not judging..but ewww
The way you try to legitimize the daesh is perturbing.
It seems you are constantly about it.
They cannot be legitimized.
You fail.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You have zero credible data and the term "bigot" in every single post.
I see you like to eat donkey balls..ok..
I'm not judging..but ewww

You should think about doing stand-up comedy. Maybe in Syria. It'll make a change from killing all those Daesh guys that you are going after. That's any day now, right?

 

[schmuckley]

You should think about doing stand-up comedy. Maybe in Syria. It'll make a change from killing all those Daesh guys that you are going after. That's any day now, right?

Riighht..
Realistically I can't do that.
I realize this...
What the Daesh do doesn't seem to bother you in the least.
It's quite disturbing to me.

 

[schmuckley]

blastingcap posted a really good article on the Islamic state: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

It seems ..as we have been saying;that the Islamic state IS the pure form of Islam.

 

[Victorian Gray]

blastingcap posted a really good article on the Islamic state: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

It seems ..as we have been saying;that the Islamic state IS the pure form of Islam.

*You* may be saying that, the article certainly isn't.

For example: "It would be facile, even exculpatory, to call the problem of the Islamic State “a problem with Islam.” The religion allows many interpretations, and Islamic State supporters are morally on the hook for the one they choose."

 

[schmuckley]

*You* may be saying that, the article certainly isn't.

For example: "It would be facile, even exculpatory, to call the problem of the Islamic State &#8220;a problem with Islam.&#8221; The religion allows many interpretations, and Islamic State supporters are morally on the hook for the one they choose."

" It&#8217;s what Muslims do, and how they interpret their texts.&#8221; Those texts are shared by all Sunni Muslims, not just the Islamic State. &#8220;And these guys have just as much legitimacy as anyone else.&#8221;"

"the fighters of the Islamic State are authentic throwbacks to early Islam and are faithfully reproducing its norms of war."

&#8220;What&#8217;s striking about them is not just the literalism, but also the seriousness with which they read these texts,&#8221; Haykel said. &#8220;There is an assiduous, obsessive seriousness that Muslims don&#8217;t normally have.&#8221;

RIF
Victorian Gray fail

Q:What is Dabiq?

 

[Victorian Gray]

" It’s what Muslims do, and how they interpret their texts.” Those texts are shared by all Sunni Muslims, not just the Islamic State. “And these guys have just as much legitimacy as anyone else.”"

"the fighters of the Islamic State are authentic throwbacks to early Islam and are faithfully reproducing its norms of war."

“What’s striking about them is not just the literalism, but also the seriousness with which they read these texts,” Haykel said. “There is an assiduous, obsessive seriousness that Muslims don’t normally have.”

RIF
Victorian Gray fail

Q:What is Dabiq?

"None of which means "It seems ..as we have been saying;that the Islamic state IS the pure form of Islam."

Again, from the concluding paragraphs of the article: "The religion allows many interpretations, and Islamic State supporters are morally on the hook for the one they choose."

Dabiq? Don't know, don't care, not curious enough to bother looking it up.

 

[blastingcap]

Dabiq? Don't know, don't care, not curious enough to bother looking it up.

If you don't understand Islam what what people believe, then why should anyone listen to what you have to say?

 

[Victorian Gray]

If you don't understand Islam what what people believe, then why should anyone listen to what you have to say?

What does an on-line magazine put out by Daesh or a town in Syria have to do with understanding Islam?

Ok, the town in Syria might be related to a myth about the apocalypse.

 

[blastingcap]

What does an on-line magazine put out by Daesh or a town in Syria have to do with understanding Islam?

Ok, the town in Syria might be related to a myth about the apocalypse.

You have openly declared yourself ignorant of the mindset and beliefs of the people who are causing problems in there.

Since you don't understand these people and don't seem to care that you don't understand these people, I don't think you are qualified to recommend any policies regarding them.

In contrast, here's an actual expert on the Middle East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcDTP-7nleA

as cited in http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/