Religion enters Russian schools

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Paddington
Most countries do have religion in schools, including most European countries.

When I lived in England, all the schools there had mandatory worship a few times a week, for the Church of England. I suppose you could sit it out, but when you're 5 years old and everyone is going to assembly, it's kind of hard to object.

Which is the reason why religion should not be brought into schools. Why should a 5 year old Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, etc.... kid be forced via peer and adult preasure to do prayers for a religion he/she does not belong to or be forced to pick one if the parents are Atheist? Outside of teaching about the different religions there are in the world and giving a brief description about their belief systems and customs all schools should leave religion to the places of worship and at home.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Paddington

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Paddington
Most countries do have religion in schools, including most European countries.

When I lived in England, all the schools there had mandatory worship a few times a week, for the Church of England. I suppose you could sit it out, but when you're 5 years old and everyone is going to assembly, it's kind of hard to object.

And this is supposed to make it right?

No I'm pointing this out so people can get some perspective. Very few countries are like the U.S., in that there's no religion in the government run schools. If you're going to start some anti-Russian, anti-religion in schools campaign, you might want to look closer to home first, at some of America's very close allies and "across the pond neighbors" which have similar policies in their countries, and seem to have it without the American media going apeshit about how evil and backwards they are.

Most european schools to have a sort of religious survey class. This is much different they the case with our russians here.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: magomago

I would think to absolutely ignore religion at the same time can be brain washing.

Yes, the same way that not taking drugs is addicting. You can teach morals without the dogma. Let each adult research and chose a religion if they want. I can see how religious people would not like this idea, it is a lot harder to recruit an adult than brainwash a kid.

Have you ever seen those kids of the KKK member on TV repeating all the hate their parents taught them? Four, five, six year olds. Do you think those kids are going to grow up to be racist? It's the same thing with religion, it's pounded into them and becomes part of them in their early years, by the time they are adults it's nearly impossible to shed that brainwashing. Of course I just described almost all religious people, they belong to their current religion solely based on their parents indoctrinating them. How does that make you feel guys? You did not chose anything, it was ingrained into your subconsciouses in the years you are too young to remember... scary huh?

morals without dogma......
ahhh...you mean teach morals without having to teach religion.....interesting concept.
yet that is hardly a true statement.

I find 1prophet to be right on the money!!

Its interesting how you can call somebody a troll because their beliefs concerning religion don`t agree with iether your beliefs or lack of beliefs.
Things that make you go hmmm

You don't need to be religous to have a morals. There are plenty of "religous people" in the world who act nothing like what their so called religion preachs. The fact is idea known as morals is something that comes from the basic human ability of being able to put yourself into another person's place. This ability does not require you to be taught a religion at all ! Being able to understand and put yourself in someone elses shoes is why you are standing up right instead of dragging your knuckles on the ground. It's a basic function of the human frontal lobe which allows people to have things such as morals without having it be taught like you would teach a dog to fetch a newspaper.

 

[shrumpage]

Russian Education Minister Andrei Fursenko also voiced support, saying "schoolchildren must know the history of religion and religious culture". (why?)

Learning about one's history and culture should also include religon of that culture.

If i'm studying japaness culture/history - cutting out anything reilgous would leave some gapping holes. How could you have a study of any Islamic country with mentioning Islam?

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: 1prophet

Originally posted by: Todd33
Sorry 1prophet, you are a liar. No one teaches or requires Descent of Man as reading. You are just trolling as usual. I'm disappointed, normally you flood your post with meaningless scripture passages.

Biology teacher on the first day first words I don't believe in God and no one can prove otherwise and I remember it like it was yesterday and yes we were taught about charles darwin and his works including descent of man, but I guess if you weren't there it didn't happen and anyone that disputes you is a liar.

You are in elementary or high school? I have a hard time believing that a public K-12 educator would say anything about God and teach from outdated sources like Darwin...

Junior high school during 1982 ,1983 school year and I was sitting in the front row about 4 feet away from my biology teacher when he said that so believe me I will never forget it and yes we did use outdated sources like Darwin.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Todd33
"schoolchildren" don't need to know jack about religion or religious culture. Let them explore that in college, as an adult. There is zero reason to force this crap on children with impressionable minds, it's just mild brainwashing. Leave the brainwashing to the parent, not the government.

oddly enough I agree with you for once and don't really want the Govt. teaching Religion.
That said let them have the freedom as students to practice thier faith in as that it does not intefere with the school day of course.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: Todd33
"schoolchildren" don't need to know jack about religion or religious culture. Let them explore that in college, as an adult. There is zero reason to force this crap on children with impressionable minds, it's just mild brainwashing. Leave the brainwashing to the parent, not the government.

oddly enough I agree with you for once and don't really want the Govt. teaching Religion.
That said let them have the freedom as students to practice thier faith in as that it does not intefere with the school day of course.

Of course. Freedom of religion is core to any democracy IMO.