Religion debate with a 7 year old. Would you teach your kid this?

[lowfatbaconboy]

religion is brain washing....the end

 

[Jamie571]

My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

 

[yhelothar]

I bet the 7yr old won't believe her mom anyways.
I never believed my mom's bullshit when she told me something that contradicted what I learned in school.

 

[Ikonomi]

Originally posted by: Jamie571
My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

So is religion a crutch for avoiding difficult explanations or meaningful conversation with your child?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi

Originally posted by: Jamie571
My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

So is religion a crutch for avoiding difficult explanations or meaningful conversation with your child?

In its simplest form, religion can provide an explanation for questions that a child might not understand the answer to at the time.

Once they're older, you can elaborate on the religious and scientific explanations to help explain to your child what actually happens.

 

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Her child, her way of raising it. I'm sure those of you with kids out there would do SOMETING that other people would disagree with. It is all a matter of who's raising the kid.

WINNAR!
Why are the mother's beliefs under scrutiny? Becuase they may differ from yours or mine? Thats awfully "superior" of us I'd say. If that is what the mom "believes" (and I say that in quotes becuase I would safely bet that the mom was giving the kid the easy alternative versus mom and dad had wild, animal like sex 8 months ago that culiminated in daddy ejaculating inside of mommy's vagine, where a 1 sperm, out of a bajillion penetrated the egg that is reelased monthly from ommies ovaries, then embedded itself into the linning of her uterus etc etc ... ).

I would certainly tell my 0-8 yr old that mommy and daddies make babies, but it is a blessing from God that makes it truly happen.

Its her beliefs, and her right to pass those beliefs onto her children. If they aren't your beliefs, STFU.

Oh, and if you don't have kids yourself, you have no place in this thread. As you can talk all you want about how you are going to raise your kids before you have them, but I ASSURE you it changes DRASTICALLY once they are born.

Anatomy and human reproduction are not beliefs, period.

But you're absolutely right on one thing, as a parent you have all the right in the world to pass on your moronically ignorant "beliefs" and "knowledge" to your children. So they can go to school and learn what bumbling idiots they and their parents are.

Mabey for bonus points there will be another kid of middle eastern descent in her class, and she will drop some nice bombs like "beloved patriot". :roll:

 

[mobobuff]

Some of you are missing an important part of the conversation... the mom pursued the conversation by asking the girl if she knew where babies come from, she even said "YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW", and she went on to convince the daughter that it was God who did it. Do you see the irony? The lunacy? I'd hope you should. Telling the girl "you should know by now" and telling her she was wrong for thinking the mom and dad are responsible, and then telling her something false? Absolutely ridiculous. The mother was vehemently pressing her beliefs onto the daughter. She didn't ask, "mommy, where do babies come from?" She recognized a baby inside of a mother, and she knew the basic truth on how it got there, but the mother made sure she believed something else, something false.

Of course parents are completely free to teach their children whatever they want at whatever age... and I'm free to think they are retarded and weak minded. Would've been funny if the pregnant girl overheard the conversation, and just happened to be atheist.

 

[dandruff]

Originally posted by: Jamie571
My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

Thank you O Lord Jesus! :laugh:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Jamie571
My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

My nine year old doesn't attend church, and yet gets excellent grades, and was in a fifth grade math course this past year (third grade). She's received various citizenship awards, and her teachers are always gushing about what a joy she is to have in class. All done without the "benefit" of a christian church (or church of any sort). Just old fashioned good upbringing. When she asked what happens when we die, I explained that lots of people believe different things, went over some of them, and said that the only people who really know what happens are already dead.
You don't have to instill fear of fire and brimstone, nor promises of an eternal afterlife to raise a good child. I understand that church could certainly be a big help for some people, but it's definitely not a necessity.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
The child would become a searcher, and would spend its life seeking a truth. Perhaps eventually finding the truth but by that point the child would not know anything other than the way of the seeker and he would look at the Truth, set it down, and say, "Oh, that's nice.", and never have any clue what to do with it. The child would not tie himself to the Truth without much pain being inflicted upon him and he would bring others pain as well through his wavering and his pendulum-like motion through the joy of finding and the despair of having nothing for which to seek.

There is much that I would give to have been one of those children who was sure from the start.

I say bless those parents.

ZV

My parents never really instilled any sort of religious thought into me when I was a kid. I went to a few Sunday School type of things at my daycare when I was 4-5, but by the time I was 6 had more or less discarded the idea of christianity. Then I was an atheist for years, then I became a searcher and read up a tad on various religions. I'm perfectly comfortable with the path I ended up on, and it's never really affected anyone around me.
Contrary to wanting to be one of those children who was raised to believe something, I'm happy that I was free to seek religion my own way.

I can speak only of what I have known through my own experiences in life. Perhaps, no, most likely, I would have been as I am regardless of how I was brought up, but my own path is such that I wouldn't recommend it to others.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: hscorpio
I often wonder what it would be like if parents didn't teach their kids about God/religion until their children were old enough to have developed some critical thinking abilities.

The child would become a searcher, and would spend its life seeking a truth. Perhaps eventually finding the truth but by that point the child would not know anything other than the way of the seeker and he would look at the Truth, set it down, and say, "Oh, that's nice.", and never have any clue what to do with it. The child would not tie himself to the Truth without much pain being inflicted upon him and he would bring others pain as well through his wavering and his pendulum-like motion through the joy of finding and the despair of having nothing for which to seek.

There is much that I would give to have been one of those children who was sure from the start.

I say bless those parents.

ZV

The problem with that reasoning is that the "truth" that the fundies teach their kid isn't the truth at all.

So yes, that child will go through life thinking she already knows the answers, but those answers will be wrong. To compound her ignorance, not only will she believe the wrong information, she will be brainwashed and refuse to believe anything else. To a hardcore Christian, their minds are closed. Whatever is taught it church is true to them, and anything else, even if proven by science, is false.

Fundamentalism blinds a populace and ensures that they never utilize their brain to its full potential. It will lead them to make poor choices in life by providing a foundation built on falsehoods.

Who says that one must be a "fundie" to be brought up in that manner? I know plenty of people who were brought up in that way, who have always been sure, and who are decidedly not "fundies".

ZV

 

[Jamie571]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi

Originally posted by: Jamie571
My nine year old daughter luvs going to church. We do not force her, its her decision at this point. She is a straight A student, and in gifted programs at school. She recently got an award for having perfect conduct for the entire year. Everyone always tells my wife and I what a joy it is to be around her. I know she would not be where she is today, if she didn't follow the teaching she received at a Christian church.

The one question I leave you with is what will you say to your children when they ask you at around 4 years old, "What happens when you die?"

Most religion gives children hope and security of going to heaven. This helps ease the mind while growing up. It also provides and explanation of where Great Grand-father is.

So is religion a crutch for avoiding difficult explanations or meaningful conversation with your child?

I believe without a shadow of doubt in God, so the explanations she recieves from me are truth.

 

[Brutuskend]

The girl's MOM is a idiot....

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
so you all tell your kids santa claus is bullsh!t? and the easter bunny is bullsh!t? and everybody who says otherwise is full of sh!t?

gee, id love being your kid :roll:

age 7 is a little young to teach otherwise. imo.

You don't have to actively engage in lieing to your children to still have the fun and imagination.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Ignorance is the trashbag that the weak use to sheild themselves from the rotten tomtatoes of truth....

You're totally corect.

As soon as my kids ask about babies, I'm bustin' out the porn