Relationship Between FSB and DDR Speed

[CheePeou]

Planning to buy a Duron 1300 to be run on Shuttle MK35N (DDR266) mombo, DDR266 ram, and ATA133 HDD, for office applications uses. Have some uncertainty.

Question 1: since D1300 runs on 100MHz FSB, does this mean overall system run at only DDR200?
Question 2: as D1300 is known to be can't o/c by much, what actual or theoretical tweaks are there to improve performance for office applications usage?
Question 3: if a ATA100 HDD is used instead, will it "pull down" the overall speed?

Thks in adv for any responses...

 

[Ilmater]

When a Duron 1300 is $34 and an Athlon XP 1700+ is $43, why would you want to buy the Duron. If you have to, skip a few meals. The whole eating thing is over-rated. Seriously, the performance difference between the two is HUGE.

 

[AndyHui]

1: Not necessarily. These days the FSB can run asynchronously to the RAM, so you can set the RAM to run at a higher speed than the FSB. However, you don't always get an improvement on performance because of the wait states that running asynch causes.

2: As Ilmater says, purchase a bottom end Athlon XP instead. Don't bother with a Duron.

3: No, the ATA100 drive indicates that it supports a maximum transfer rate of 100MB/s. Since no hard drive comes anywhere near the limit imposed by either ATA100 or ATA133, there will be no reduction in speed. The ATA standards are not a bottleneck.

 

[CheePeou]

A previous Athlon 2100+ using AMD stock aluminium fan on GA-7VKML mombo that I used for audio edcoding resulted in frequent system hangup due to overheating, and thus, I'm very weary of the Athlons. Therefore, I'm going backwards for a simpler system, and thus, the 3 Q's. Does any kind souls have the answers? Thks...

 

[anomaly]

Buy a 1700+ and a $7 GC38 from SVC.com. It WILL be fine, unless you have the smallest case and run your heater in the summer.

 

[AndyHui]

You should not have any heat problems if you purchased a Thoroughbred-B Athlon XP processor.

 

[pspada]

Originally posted by: AndyHui
1: Not necessarily. These days the FSB can run asynchronously to the RAM, so you can set the RAM to run at a higher speed than the FSB. However, you don't always get an improvement on performance because of the wait states that running asynch causes.

2: As Ilmater says, purchase a bottom end Athlon XP instead. Don't bother with a Duron.

3: No, the ATA100 drive indicates that it supports a maximum transfer rate of 100MB/s. Since no hard drive comes anywhere near the limit imposed by either ATA100 or ATA133, there will be no reduction in speed. The ATA standards are not a bottleneck.

I disagree. The relatively slow speed of the hard drive (compared to the RAM, CPU, etc) is indeed the worst bottleneck in any system these days.

 

[AndyHui]

I said the standards are not the bottleneck.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: CheePeou
A previous Athlon 2100+ using AMD stock aluminium fan on GA-7VKML mombo that I used for audio edcoding resulted in frequent system hangup due to overheating, and thus, I'm very weary of the Athlons. Therefore, I'm going backwards for a simpler system, and thus, the 3 Q's. Does any kind souls have the answers? Thks...

Yeah, install the heatsink properly, use fans, and don't put the computer in the oven.

Seriously though... there's absolutely no reason any computer should run hot these days. Forget all the crap about AMD processors running hot... that's a problem of the past... and if you're still having problems with it, you're doing something wrong. (sitting on a 20% overclock, 6% voltage increase @ 41 degrees C with a $20 heatsink and a $5 fan ... that's 105 F for the math impaired)

 

[Philli]

Originally posted by: CheePeou
A previous Athlon 2100+ using AMD stock aluminium fan on GA-7VKML mombo that I used for audio edcoding resulted in frequent system hangup due to overheating, and thus, I'm very weary of the Athlons. Therefore, I'm going backwards for a simpler system, and thus, the 3 Q's. Does any kind souls have the answers? Thks...

Mine works fine, and going backwords isn't much of a solution anyway...just try, try again

 

[pspada]

Originally posted by: AndyHui
I said the standards are not the bottleneck.

Oops, you are correct, I completely missed that. 😱