Reid - be bipartisan, drop your extremism while we keep ours

cybrsage

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Saying it's time to rebuild America by working together to create jobs, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Sunday prepared for Congress' return to Washington this week with a warning to Republicans to leave Tea Party "extremism" behind and "learn what legislation is all about."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...arty-extremism/?test=latestnews#ixzz1jdFGHYyC


Apparently, legislation is all about doing what the DNC wants...

Harry Reid should listen to Gandhi, who was much wiser than Harry Reid will ever be:

"Be the Change you want to see in the world." If Reid wants to remove extremism from government, he needs to start with his own party, not demanding other parties remove their extremism.
 

dank69

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...arty-extremism/?test=latestnews#ixzz1jdFGHYyC

Apparently, legislation is all about doing what the DNC wants...​


Harry Reid should listen to Gandhi, who was much wiser than Harry Reid will ever be:



"Be the Change you want to see in the world." If Reid wants to remove extremism from government, he needs to start with his own party, not demanding other parties remove their extremism.
Can you detail some of Reid's current extremism for me?
 

spidey07

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Can you detail some of Reid's current extremism for me?

Blocking/not voting on a 1 year tax break for all working Americans is pretty extreme. I would call not voting on a budget pretty extreme.
 
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theeedude

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Blocking/not voting on a 1 year tax break for all working Americans is pretty extreme. I would call not voting on a budget pretty extreme.

They could only agree on funding for 2 months. Nothing extreme in voting on what's agreed on and using the extra time to negotiate the rest. Common sense.
 

IronWing

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Reid single-handedly stopped Obama's agenda on healthcare, environment, and taxes from 2009-2011 and Republicans call him an extremist? I guess he is an extreme conservative compared to the conservatives of yore but hardly by the standards of modern Republican fascism.
 

Jhhnn

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Blocking/not voting on a 1 year tax break for all working Americans is pretty extreme. I would call not voting on a budget pretty extreme.

It's not like the Radical HOR GOP hadn't put a load of poison pills into that bill, Spidey. It was just pandering, preening & posing- they knew it wouldn't even pass the sniff test in the Senate.

You know it yourself, despite partisan assertions to the contrary. It never was a serious proposal. Which is what Reid is talking about, after all.
 

CPA

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Reid needs to call out Pelosi, Conyers and Frank before he calls out any of the GOP.
 

spidey07

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It's not like the Radical HOR GOP hadn't put a load of poison pills into that bill, Spidey. It was just pandering, preening & posing- they knew it wouldn't even pass the sniff test in the Senate.

You know it yourself, despite partisan assertions to the contrary. It never was a serious proposal. Which is what Reid is talking about, after all.

If it's so bad, then why not put it to a vote? Democrats have a strong majority in the senate, they could easily just vote no.

The fact remains, reid and his extremest obstructionist democrats wouldn't even vote on a bill passed by the house.
 

chowderhead

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Senate Republicans demanded 60 votes to pass almost every piece of legislation. That is abusing the filibuster rules but the Democrats allowed that. When the Democrats lose the Senate they better return that favor through I doubt they would have the balls.
 

cybrsage

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Reid needs to call out Pelosi, Conyers and Frank before he calls out any of the GOP.


He should also call for the removal of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Membership

The caucus is officially non-partisan, but in practice it has been closely identified with the Democratic Party, and tends to function as a lobbying group within the wider Democratic Party. Only six black Republicans have been elected to Congress since the caucus was founded: Senator Edward W. Brooke of Massachusetts, Representative Gary Franks of Connecticut, Delegate Melvin H. Evans of the Virgin Islands, Representative J. C. Watts of Oklahoma, Representative Allen West of Florida, and Representative Tim Scott of South Carolina. Brooke was not in the CBC. Watts elected not to join the group because of its closely Democratic affiliation and goals,[4] saying "...they said that I had sold out and [called me an] Uncle Tom. But I have my thoughts. And I think they're race-hustling poverty pimps."[5] After the 2010 midterms, Allen West joined the caucus while Tim Scott declined.[6] West indicated that he planned to shake up the CBC's "monolithic" ideology and indicated the caucus promoted a culture of victimization among its black constituents.[7]
The caucus has grown steadily as more black members have been elected. In 1969 the caucus had nine members. As of 2008, it had 43 members, including two who are non-voting members of the House, representing the District of Columbia and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
[edit] White membership

Over the years, the question has arisen, "Does the caucus allow only black members?" Pete Stark, D-CA., who is white, tried and failed to join in 1975. In January 2007, Josephine Hearn reported in Politico that white members of Congress were not welcome to join the CBC.[8] Freshman Representative Steve Cohen, D-TN., who is white, pledged to apply for membership during his election campaign to represent his constituency, which is 60% African American. Hearn further reported that although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black." Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr., D-MO., the son of Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-MO., a co-founder of the caucus, is quoted as saying, "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He's white and the caucus is black. It's time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It's an unwritten rule. It's understood." In response to the decision, Rep. Cohen stated, "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in." Clay issued an official statement from his office:
Quite simply, Rep. Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept—there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it's our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria, unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives.
On January 25, 2007, Representative Tom Tancredo, R-CO., spoke out against the continued existence of the CBC as well as the Democratic Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Republican Congressional Hispanic Conference saying, "It is utterly hypocritical for Congress to extol the virtues of a color-blind society while officially sanctioning caucuses that are based solely on race. If we are serious about achieving the goal of a colorblind society, Congress should lead by example and end these divisive, race-based caucuses."[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus
 

dank69

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When you read the word "we", how often do you think that word means "only one person"?
The difference you keep ignoring is that Reid and the Dems don't cave in to the extremists on their side while the GOP has been lately.
 

monovillage

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Cybrsage, you do realize that by pointing out the racism of Democrats you will be labeled a racist. Just like if you point out Democrat extremism they'll label you an extremist. or if you point out Democrat hypocrisy they'll call you a hypocrite. It doesn't matter how accurate and honest the points you make are, they'll tell any lie, exaggerate any evidence to smear opponents.
 

spidey07

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The difference you keep ignoring is that Reid and the Dems don't cave in to the extremists on their side while the GOP has been lately.

I would call not even voting on bills passed by the majority of representatives in the House who, well, represent The People, as pretty damn extreme.

I wouldn't call cutting governement spending and debt as "extreme" either (remember, this is the mind of a liberal who believes these ideas are extreme and only in their mind, not reality), but that's the label democrats are going for. But when Obama tries to run against a do nothing congress, republicans will gladly point out all the bills they passed in the house that weren't even voted on in the democrat controlled senate.

It's going to be great, making Obama run against his own do nothing party in the Senate. Republicans are playing chess, democrats are playing soundbites, and it's going to bite them in the ass.
 

IronWing

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Cutting debt? Spidey did you really claim that passing a tax cut with no spending cuts was a form of debt cutting?
 

Jhhnn

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If it's so bad, then why not put it to a vote? Democrats have a strong majority in the senate, they could easily just vote no.

The fact remains, reid and his extremest obstructionist democrats wouldn't even vote on a bill passed by the house.

The HOR bill was played by the book, rule XIV. There's no reason to waste time considering a bill that isn't serious in the first place, and HOR Repubs knew it when they sent it to the Senate. It was a joke- Pandering, posturing & posing sums it up- a chunk of red meat for their raging base, of which you're obviously a member.
 

spidey07

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Cutting debt? Spidey did you really claim that passing a tax cut with no spending cuts was a form of debt cutting?

Umm, the House has passed numerous spending and deficit reduction bills that were not even brought for a vote in the Senate.
 

dank69

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Cybrsage, you do realize that by pointing out the racism of Democrats you will be labeled a racist. Just like if you point out Democrat extremism they'll label you an extremist. or if you point out Democrat hypocrisy they'll call you a hypocrite. It doesn't matter how accurate and honest the points you make are, they'll tell any lie, exaggerate any evidence to smear opponents.
Ah, the victim complex. Don't let the man keep you down.
 

spidey07

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The HOR bill was played by the book, rule XIV. There's no reason to waste time considering a bill that isn't serious in the first place, and HOR Repubs knew it when they sent it to the Senate. It was a joke- Pandering, posturing & posing sums it up- a chunk of red meat for their raging base, of which you're obviously a member.

If it was so bad then why not vote on it? This is what we need to focus on, Reid's extreme obstructionism and his do nothing senate.