Regular everyday people in Iraq
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It always makes me wonder why propaganda sites are not more balanced. I mean it would mean so much more if they had kurds gassed by hussein on the front page, or some of the 50,000 he killed to solidify his rule after the 91 cease fire. Or picture of his warehouse full of executed corpses. I mean then it really would seem to be more objective, and hit home to a larger extent.
There's a higher resolution shot of the boy missing his arms on the MSNBC slide shows. Even considering the overall context of the war, sometimes a single image really hits home the fact that individual life threads are being irreversably altered for better and worse. Even if the "worse" cases are in the minority, they can be hard to stomach.
Apparently international media coverage is showing images like these much more frequently than US media. Don't be shocked if there's no immediate "good job" pat on the back forthcoming from the international community after we've finished.
[edit: redundancy and clarity]
Apparently international media coverage is showing images like these much more frequently than US media. Don't be shocked if there's no immediate "good job" pat on the back forthcoming from the international community after we've finished.
[edit: redundancy and clarity]
These are the victims of THIS war, what is currently happening...
If you didn't notice it, there was a comparison of 9/11 pics and pics from todays Irak...
Showing what happens to civilians in this war isn't really propaganda, it's facts that these civilians are dead now and that these explosions that so many people record because it is amazing to see will rip the limbs of children as well as soldiers...
It's ok to hope for a quick ending and good progress, but never forget that there are innocent victims in every war, showing that isn't propaganda, it's the truth and from many of the comments i have seen there are many people who need to SEE that to understand the horror...
Well, out to lurk again...
Just like most of the media has left out the images of people welcoming us and heart warming photos of re-united families. There exists photos and stories that make even the biggest hawk wonder if the human price is worth it, there are other photos and stories that remove those doubts.
In the end war is horrible thing, and we can only hope the price paid is worth it.
I don't think they are inconvienent victims I think everyone is a tragedy.
9/11 has what to do with this war? Well if you buy into what Bush says then maybe something but I see no connection at all. And there was not gruesome 9/11 pictures compared to what they showed.
What saddam has done to the people of Iraq seems quite connected to a war that is supposedly liberating the people from him to me.
Further being factual, and being propaganda is not mutually exclusive, it is a rare and stupid propaganda minister who blathers like the information minister in Iraq, I don't know how the journalists can keep a straight face. Normal propaganda relies on showing a one sided factual representation to alter ones viewpoint from what it would be if all the facts were known, which IMHO is exactly what they are doing, showing that people die in war, and innocent people in particular do. Well nothing is new there, but they don't show that people were slaughtered in Saddams "peace"
9/11 has what to do with this war? Well if you buy into what Bush says then maybe something but I see no connection at all. And there was not gruesome 9/11 pictures compared to what they showed.
What saddam has done to the people of Iraq seems quite connected to a war that is supposedly liberating the people from him to me.
Further being factual, and being propaganda is not mutually exclusive, it is a rare and stupid propaganda minister who blathers like the information minister in Iraq, I don't know how the journalists can keep a straight face. Normal propaganda relies on showing a one sided factual representation to alter ones viewpoint from what it would be if all the facts were known, which IMHO is exactly what they are doing, showing that people die in war, and innocent people in particular do. Well nothing is new there, but they don't show that people were slaughtered in Saddams "peace"
No offense man, but the major news networks have been showing those feel good pictures of Iraqi's welcoming us quite a bit. I'm not sure what news you are watching.
Yes, but that really has little to do with this war. Iraq was not the cause of 9/11, and did not have any involvement with that attack. If you have evidence to the contrary, please elighten us. The people that died in the 9/11 attack, and the innocents killed in this action are both tradegys, but one does not justify the other.
Does killing and maiming civilians quench your thirst for blood? These people have done nothing to us, but we bomb what little they have down to the 9th circle of hell because we THINK Saddam might be in the area.
its a good thing to never forget that war is a ugly and inhumain thing
why did the author of this site see the need to put out of context quotes from U.S. admin. officials above these photos? any reasonable person can see that saddam has made every effort to cause civilian casualties and the U.S. has made every effort to prevent them
why did the author of this site see the need to put out of context quotes from U.S. admin. officials above these photos? any reasonable person can see that saddam has made every effort to cause civilian casualties and the U.S. has made every effort to prevent them
I'm not taking a stance here, i'm just saying that some people who cheers when big boms drop "wooohoooo, did you see that explosion" need to see that the result isn't just fireworks and glory...
Maybe because the quotes provide such a contrast to see, the Donald Rumsfeld quote, ?It is a breathtaking sight to see", is one of those i was talking about in my post above... It's a breathtaking sight to see but there are consequenses, as this site cleary showed, so the cheering shouldn't be so loud, let's just be sad that it had to be done and hope that it will be overwith as soon as possible, for everyones sake..
Wow, all those pictures of Iraqi's that were victims of Saddams regime are very moving, they should be included with the rest of the images of his past atrocities.
mastertech01
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There should also be a site showing all the bodies of those Kurds and others, tens of thousands, gassed, poisoned, etc by SH regime and many beheaded, torchered, dismembered in front of their families with the intention of bringing terror to his people...
and title it also, Regualar Everyday People In Iraq.
and title it also, Regualar Everyday People In Iraq.
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There is one, and it's not pretty. Those who have strong stomachs can click here: link
At the same time, it's tremendously sad that any of the everyday people in Iraq should have to suffer any more grief because of Saddam's regime
I hope the coallition forces prove just as determined to aid the everyday folk as they have been to uproot the cancer of Saddam.
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Most of us want nothing more than those very same people to LIVE on the same level as you and me.
Yes, but if Rumsfeild was asked about the horrors of civilian casualties, you would not get " it is breathtaking to see".
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