Registry Cleaners For Pros & Experienced...

[DasFox]

POST EDITED....

I've been a fan of JV16 since back in the day when it was free, and since then I've used it.

I have really loved the original 1.4 versions when they came out, small and simple, but with the release of the 2007 version, I really hate this new GUI, and the scan times are really much slower then before, and honestly I'm not sure it's doing much of a better job then the older version.

Macecraft said they are working on a new GUI for the 2008 version, can't wait to see this, I personally thought the 2007 was a bit clutter.

Besides Macecraft is anyone else making something at a pro quality level of a tool?

THANKS

P.S. This isn't a newbie discussion!

 

[Rottie]

I know JV16 is far better than CCleaner and it is mainly for power users who know how to use JV16. I like CCleaner because of simplicified interface.

 

[Jiggz]

I use Eusing Registy Cleaner. 3 mouse clicks and I'm done. 1 click for launch, 1 click to scan and lastly to repair. I trust the program so much I don't even bother doing a line by line review before cleaning the registry!

 

[Doom Machine]

i use wiseregistry cleaner 2. its free. it seperates safe and maybe piles for the advanced or daring users. 248 problems found/ 211 safe to fix on my rig

 

[DasFox]

Honestly I'm not sure anyone makes a better cleaner then JV16, but I hate the 2007 GUI. Macecraft told me there is a new GUI in the works for the newest version...

 

[stash]

Also is there anyone out there making a better registry cleaner?

The best registry cleaner is the one you never install. They are pure snake oil, potentially dangerous and offer no quantifiable benefits.

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: stash

Also is there anyone out there making a better registry cleaner?

The best registry cleaner is the one you never install. They are pure snake oil, potentially dangerous and offer no quantifiable benefits.

Snake oil is a medication for those who believe.

 

[biostud]

I use advanced system optimizer which can also defrag the registry.

http://www.systweak.com/asov2/

 

[will889]

Originally posted by: biostud
I use advanced system optimizer which can also defrag the registry.

http://www.systweak.com/asov2/

That is a good one. I bought Ace Utilities a ways back (free lifetime version upgrades) and it works great too. Easy interface and effective

AceLogix

 

[nerp]

If registry cleaning does nothing for performance, what's the point?

 

[stash]

Originally posted by: nerp
If registry cleaning does nothing for performance, what's the point?

To make money off of people who don't know any better, of course

 

[Jiggz]

Originally posted by: nerp
If registry cleaning does nothing for performance, what's the point?

If you believe in such, then there should be no point in Disk Clean Up and Defragging, eh? It is exactly the same operation except Reg Cleaning is in a smaller scale, while Disk Clean Up and Defrag is for the entire hdd, Reg Cleaning is just for the Registry.

 

[stash]

It is exactly the same operation except Reg Cleaning is in a smaller scale

No.

Registry cleaning usually involves deleting arbitrary items out of the registry, which at best will do absolutely nothing for performance (a few kilo- to megabytes of registry data is not going to make any noticeable difference) and at worst will leave you with a machine that won't boot, or with apps that no longer work.

The data that these "cleaners" remove is arbitrary because a safe cleaner would require the dev to have knowledge of basically every Windows app ever made as well as future ones. Which is impossible, so they guess, and they often guess wrong.

Unless you are extremely anal (which granted, a frightening number around here are), registry cleaning is something that carries very high risk for zero benefit. Even if you are a sufferer of extreme computer OCD, it's impossible for a registry cleaner to leave you with a perfectly ordered pristine registry, for the reasons I noted above.

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: stash

Also is there anyone out there making a better registry cleaner?

The best registry cleaner is the one you never install. They are pure snake oil, potentially dangerous and offer no quantifiable benefits.

OK lets back this up, I'm not a computer newbie, and the topic is not here for having software wars!

There is more to it then just deleting arbitrary items out of the registry, and cleaning...

Anyhow let's not get into some FLAME WAR over this.

There are a lot of benefits...

Anyhow, PLEASE let's not get off of the TOPIC!

This topic isn't here as a newbie discussion with me needing any lessons. I use this in a professional IT capacity, and there is a purpose, but as I stated, let's PLEASE stay on TOPIC, and that means you ----> STASH!

NOW can we get back to the discussion?

ACTUALLY I would like to ask IT techs to step forward on this with their thoughts if there any around here that are using any registry apps. This is what I should of REALLY asked before when I first posted this.

THANKS

 

[stash]

Whatever dude.

 

[lxskllr]

Regedit

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Regedit

Please be sensible to the topic, Regedit is not a registry cleaning tool.

THANKS

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: DasFox

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Regedit

Please be sensible to the topic, Regedit is not a registry cleaning tool.

THANKS

Of course it is. You wanted a registry cleaner that wasn't for noobs. That would be regedit. If you don't know what you're looking at, you shouldn't be playing with the registry using automated tools.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: DasFox
ACTUALLY I would like to ask IT techs to step forward on this with their thoughts if there any around here that are using any registry apps.

I don't use them, they're worthless.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: DasFox

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Regedit

Please be sensible to the topic, Regedit is not a registry cleaning tool.

THANKS

I'm usually sympathetic to an OP's request to keep a thread clean. In this case the question is a simple request for recs, several of which you've gotten, and beyond that having raised the topic in the context of an IT professional you can't hope to keep it within narrow boundaries. Sorry .

Which is just prep for wanting to give my opinion, of course! I agree with Stash and Loup, for all the reasons given. There is at least one class of key that a registry cleaner should be able to safely remove, and those are keys pointing to files or folders that don't exist. Probably one of the biggest sources are the thousands of COM server classes that get registered and then don't get unregistered later.

Buuut... what does having them in there cost you in the first place? A couple of megs, if that, as Stash noted. There are other keys that can cause performance issues, such as keys that tell Windows to load something that doesn't exist, but you usually become aware of these problems without using a registry cleaner. And the ultimate problem with registry cleaners is exactly what Stash said it was: other than for a subset of very well-known apps, the cleaner has no idea what the key was used for. It can't possibly understand the semantics, and so it can't possibly guarantee safe removal of a key.

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: DasFox

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Regedit

Please be sensible to the topic, Regedit is not a registry cleaning tool.

THANKS

Of course it is. You wanted a registry cleaner that wasn't for noobs. That would be regedit. If you don't know what you're looking at, you shouldn't be playing with the registry using automated tools.

Thanks for the input Markbnj, not that I need any as I said before in the post, and sorry didn't mean to exclude anyone, I'm just trying to keep the post on track with pros, that know what's going on is all, not some noob fest for cleaning, and howto, etc...

Regedit can be very cumbersome...

 

[DasFox]

Anyone else on this?

THANKS

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: DasFox
Anyone else on this?

THANKS

Sure - it's a horrible idea. You shouldn't have automated non-MS tools touching your registry with the intent of ripping things out, period. It's a very, very BAD idea.

Opening a registry in XP SP1 or later Regedt32.exe does an autofix on it; that's all you should ever need to do.

*Exactly* what problem are you solving by this 'regfix' tool that you can't do vastly better with other methods?

 

[btcomm1]

Agree with all people saying registry cleaners are worthless.

Would you be so kind Dasfox and explain what problems you have been able to actually fix other then the "problems" the registry "cleaner" tells you about?

 

[DasFox]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: DasFox
Anyone else on this?

THANKS

Sure - it's a horrible idea. You shouldn't have automated non-MS tools touching your registry with the intent of ripping things out, period. It's a very, very BAD idea.

Opening a registry in XP SP1 or later Regedt32.exe does an autofix on it; that's all you should ever need to do.

*Exactly* what problem are you solving by this 'regfix' tool that you can't do vastly better with other methods?

What are you talking about with Regedt32.exe doing an autofix?

Regedt32.exe just opens the Registry is all in XP Pro SP2 nothing different then regedit.