Absolutely nothing but the argument will be made that he shouldn't have been elligible to play in the upcoming games/season and/or he was willfully disregarding the rules of the NCAA and must be punished justly. $100,000 punishment would need to come from his ability and not his pocket -- see where the argument could go?
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Did it happen in the before or after the game?Originally posted by: mpitts
Can the NCAA take away Ohio State's victory against Michigan in 2004 after it was found that Troy Smith took $500 cash from a booster during the season?Originally posted by: her209
It sounds like this all went down in the 2005 season. Since USC didn't win back in January, can the NCAA take away the Championship from a previous year?Originally posted by: chambersc
I'm going on the record right now that USC will have at least 1 championship yanked. As far as the Heisman, Reggie will keep it.
Someone's going to be right
Fingolfin269
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Anyone who thinks a program like USC can rise from the dead so quickly without this type of thing happening is delusional. The fact is that this happens at pretty much any successful school in the country.
Queasy
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USC can't lose the AP championship because the NCAA has no control over that. The AP could rescind it but who knows if they would.
The NCAA also can not take the Heisman trophy away from Bush because they do not award it. That whatever club up in NY does.
The BCS is organized by the major conferences so the NCAA could theoretically force them to remove the BCS championship if it can be shown that Bush received illegal benefits when USC won it.
Thank you ... if he was offered money then it was because of his performance on the field
(LSU fan and USC hater by the way but still can't deny that he is a great player)
Originally posted by: her209
Did it happen in the before or after the game?Originally posted by: mpitts
Can the NCAA take away Ohio State's victory against Michigan in 2004 after it was found that Troy Smith took $500 cash from a booster during the season?Originally posted by: her209
It sounds like this all went down in the 2005 season. Since USC didn't win back in January, can the NCAA take away the Championship from a previous year?Originally posted by: chambersc
I'm going on the record right now that USC will have at least 1 championship yanked. As far as the Heisman, Reggie will keep it.
Someone's going to be right
It happened in April 2004. The game was in November 2004.
WTF kind of parent names their kid Michael Michaels? His testimony should be stricken from the record just on principle.
Its probably because the coaches are part of the larger picture, the NFL.
besides Carroll and other coaches that have been int eh NFL in one way or another.
letting agents access gets them to hype the player up. Hopefully with legit ability, the guy would get drafted high and the coach would have the cancel to recruit more top players coming out of high school.
a better team could get more wins, allows coach to keep is job longer or even let him jump ship to another school for more pay.
Gunslinger08
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Why does this rule exist? How does it hurt the college or the sport for players to be getting paid?
IAteYourMother
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Same. They don't do anything to the past records of anything, they only punish whomever was involved.
And this is exactly why I don't care one bit about the college game. If I'm going to watch professional athletes play a sport, I'm going to watch the ones who admit they do it for money (the ones who play on Sunday) and not the ones pretending they're amateurs or, even worse, 'students' (the ones who play on Saturday). Please - the college game is just such a fraudulent joke. [Speaking, of course, only about the 'big-time' programs which get shown on TV. Lots of smaller schools aren't rife with this sort of rule-breaking, but then, no one cares but alumni of that school anyway.]
Queasy
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Anytime a player plays after receiving a benefit like this he is considered ineligible. The NCAA will then strip the school of all victories in games the player participated in after he started receiving the benefit. If the NCAA thinks the school was trying to cover up the player's ineligibility, they'll punish the school as well with scholarship reductions/probation/etc.
This happened to the Michigan basketball program because of the Fab Five and it happened to the Alabama football program for the '93 season because a player signed on a cocktail napkin with an agent in New Orleans after the 93 Sugar Bowl.
wow, way to stay objective folks.....
"Anyone who thinks a program like USC can rise from the dead so quickly without this type of thing happening is delusional. The fact is that this happens at pretty much any successful school in the country."
That is an IDIOTIC statement. Do you really think agents pour money at every Joe Schmoe with a helmet on? Bush was a surefire top draft pick, a marketing dream - look at all the commercials he's already in - agents wanted a piece of that, period. It's not like they showered all the USC players with cash.
Mpitts, do you live in Ann Arbor or something? 500 dollars vs. 100k - similar? Troy Smith was still at OSU when that incident happened - but he paid the cash back and was suspended for two games, and his suspension may very well have cost OSU at shot at the title last season since he wasn't ready to go 100% of the Texas game last year. How about worrying about Lloyd Carr's decline, and the lack of Michigan to get any good assistant coaches - or the way they treated Pierre Woods costing them a shot at recruiting any players from Glenville HS, which currently has 7 players on OSU's roster? Two words for you, sir - Fab Five.
"Anyone who thinks a program like USC can rise from the dead so quickly without this type of thing happening is delusional. The fact is that this happens at pretty much any successful school in the country."
That is an IDIOTIC statement. Do you really think agents pour money at every Joe Schmoe with a helmet on? Bush was a surefire top draft pick, a marketing dream - look at all the commercials he's already in - agents wanted a piece of that, period. It's not like they showered all the USC players with cash.
Mpitts, do you live in Ann Arbor or something? 500 dollars vs. 100k - similar? Troy Smith was still at OSU when that incident happened - but he paid the cash back and was suspended for two games, and his suspension may very well have cost OSU at shot at the title last season since he wasn't ready to go 100% of the Texas game last year. How about worrying about Lloyd Carr's decline, and the lack of Michigan to get any good assistant coaches - or the way they treated Pierre Woods costing them a shot at recruiting any players from Glenville HS, which currently has 7 players on OSU's roster? Two words for you, sir - Fab Five.
That's not true. The University of Washington had problems like that too a few times in the past 20 years. They either warned or made them bowl ineligible.
The USC coaches HAD to know at least SOMETHING was going on with RB. I suspect that at the very least USC will be made bowl ineligable for this season and possible reduction of scholoships for the next season(s). I doubt they will erase past wins.
RB might have to pay the money back, but he's rich now so who cares. But seeing him stripped of his Heisman might be nice.....
mpitts: Darn right Ohio State sucks!!!
RB might have to pay the money back, but he's rich now so who cares. But seeing him stripped of his Heisman might be nice.....
mpitts: Darn right Ohio State sucks!!!
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