refuge for Opera 12 users?

[wpeng]

Hi, now that Opera 12 is no longer being supported, I was wondering what Opera users were turning to? I tried to go back to Chrome, but the customization options continue to be terrible. I'm mainly looking for a minimalist design with right sided tab docking, mouse gestures, flexible download manager, and low resource requirements. I've considered just sticking with 12.17 until it fully broke down, but even starting a couple years ago, there are many websites that Opera doesn't like, so it is only going to be worse in the near future.

 

[Mem]

I went from Opera 12.16 to Firefox,using a few extensions ie All-in-One Side bar,Tab Mix Plus ,Speed Dial to name a few.

I've FF more or less like old Opera.

 

[wpeng]

None of the extensions work appropriately. Maybe it is an issue with the recent update 29. All in One Sidebar does not put the downloads in the sidebar panel and opens a separate window. You can't even open downloads as a separate tab. Tab Mix Plus only lets you dock the window tabs on the bottom. Vertical tab and side tabs mess up the minimize, restore and close buttons. With Vertical Tab, you also lose the new tab button. Not only that, when you move the tabs over to the right side, it drags the sidebar from All in One over to the right side as well. I fail to understand why browsers are getting dumber and dumber.

 

[Mem]

None of the extensions work appropriately. Maybe it is an issue with the recent update 29. All in One Sidebar does not put the downloads in the sidebar panel and opens a separate window. You can't even open downloads as a separate tab. Tab Mix Plus only lets you dock the window tabs on the bottom. Vertical tab and side tabs mess up the minimize, restore and close buttons. With Vertical Tab, you also lose the new tab button. Not only that, when you move the tabs over to the right side, it drags the sidebar from All in One over to the right side as well. I fail to understand why browsers are getting dumber and dumber.

All in one side bar works fine(I'm using FF29),click on" bookmarks" heading ( one on sidebar) and you see option to click on downloads and it opens the sidebar up with download in there as well.

You can use "control and J " as well.

Btw have a look at the many extensions here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/extensions/

You might find what you are looking for.

 

[Anubis]

im still using Opera 12.x

i feel i will be for a very long time

pretty much all of the webkit based browsers suck IMO

 

[Mem]

im still using Opera 12.x

i feel i will be for a very long time

pretty much all of the webkit based browsers suck IMO

I just hope Opera realize that fans want all the main customisation back like you have with the old Opera on their new Chromium based browser,main reason why I went over to FF,their(Opera) new version is so limited on features.

 

[_Rick_]

I never even noticed a new Opera coming out.
But then, I am running into some limitations lately with Opera 12, where after a certain number of tabs, the browser gets very sluggish, and doesn't use multi-core resources.
Also, I have to use Chrome as well, just to get some webpages to work properly....

Does the "new" Opera still support tab-grouping? That's the absolute killer feature of 12.

 

[Mem]

I never even noticed a new Opera coming out.
But then, I am running into some limitations lately with Opera 12, where after a certain number of tabs, the browser gets very sluggish, and doesn't use multi-core resources.
Also, I have to use Chrome as well, just to get some webpages to work properly....

Does the "new" Opera still support tab-grouping? That's the absolute killer feature of 12.

I'm not sure to be honest,you can always download and try it,btw it does have extensions here https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/


Info on Opera 20 here http://betanews.com/2014/03/04/opera-20-released-beefs-up-bookmarks-bar-speed-dial/

 

[_Rick_]

http://jonathonvs.com/database/twenty-fiv-reasons-opera-15-is-a-downgrade/

"I. Tab Stacking
This was one of my favourite features in Opera. If you want to group some tabs, just drag a tab on top of another, and you had them arranged in a sweet little pile. This is no longer available in Opera 15."

Well, then I can just continue using Chrome...

 

[wpeng]

Chrome is memory intensive and has terrible customization.

 

[_Rick_]

Chrome is memory intensive and has terrible customization.

It might be memory intensive, but not significantly more so than Opera 12. And thanks to the one thread per tab paradigm, at least it won't slow down horribly, just because it's using 3GB of RAM.

The instance of opera 12 I am writing this from has for some obscure reason taken to requiring an entire overclocked i5 2500k core, just to keep a few hundred tabs in memory. Which renders the browser borderline unusable.

This reduces the impact of tab grouping, if I can't group any significant number of tabs without the browser becoming unusable.

So Chrome is my current back-up browser, which at least allows me to use youtube, flash apps, and other stuff that blatantly breaks Opera.

Chrome's memory usage is fine with me (even though with many less tabs it's currently eating 4GB of main memory), if at least I can use it to browse. Lack of tab groups on the other hand are a killer for me, because I'm a tab-rat.

 

[Ziptar]

I am sticking with Opera 12 for as long as I can. I've been using Opera since 8.5. There is nothing out there like the classic Opera nothing comes close. It is Unique. It just worked and had all the features I'd ever want or need.

I was crushed when Opera 15 was announced and to see that it was just going to be Chrome re-badged. It was a mistake IMHO, the world already had Chrome, it doesn't need another one.

All hope is not lost, just yet.

The Otter browser project http://otter-browser.org/ is working on building a totally new browser with classic Opera interface and functionality.

I've been watching it and its starting to look good. it's come a long way from its one man start.

More info: http://www.ghacks.net/2014/01/12/otter-browser-project-aims-recreate-classic-opera-web-browser/

I am a bit of a Luddite when it comes to the UI's and applications I use I hope Otter succeeds. I can't contribute much but I use it, test it, participate in the forums, etc.

Changing things for the sake of changing them drives me nuts. I've been working in IT since 1988 and I was somewhat pissed when Microsoft dropped the Classic Shell in Windows 7 / Server 2008 as an option. It was there all the way through the RCs then and with no mention the classic shell was dropped from the RTM. I was absolutley stupefied to see Windows Server 2012 get the Windows 8 Metro "Tiles".

Are you F-ing kidding me?!?!! It's a server not a phone or a tablet!!! Every server I've logged onto since the late 1990s and has greeted me with the same standardized simple get the job done interface / shell every time. Metro? Really? 4 extra steps just to get where I need to go every time?

Thank God for Classic Shell!!! http://www.classicshell.net/

 

[lxskllr]

The Otter browser project http://otter-browser.org/ is working on building a totally new browser with classic Opera interface and functionality.

This has my interest. I'm always up for a new libre browser, and if they can replicate the old Opera, I'll definitely give it a run, even if it doesn't become my primary browser.

 

[wpeng]

It might be memory intensive, but not significantly more so than Opera 12. And thanks to the one thread per tab paradigm, at least it won't slow down horribly, just because it's using 3GB of RAM.

You're likely more tech savvy than I am and are probably right, but Opera doesn't drop my FPS by 10 in MMO's that I run in windowed mode.

All hope is not lost, just yet.

The Otter browser project http://otter-browser.org/ is working on building a totally new browser with classic Opera interface and functionality.

I've been watching it and its starting to look good. it's come a long way from its one man start.

I have no confidence in a side project by a one man team who won't even launch a Kickstarter because he feels it will put too much pressure on him. This is not a dis, I hope he succeeds and I'm glad he started it, but I think the first final version will either be released in ten years or the project will collapse on itself within two years.