Redneck Pools will ruin your truck's suspension!

GagHalfrunt

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Can't they just build the pool in one of the five trucks up on cinder blocks in the front yard rather than the one truck that still runs?
 

NetWareHead

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For this same reason most landlords do not allow waterbeds. Mostly for the leaking potential but that volume of water that would fill a typical waterbed is incredibly heavy and could exceed the weight-bearing capacity of some structures.
 

crashtech

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Pretty sure the girls displace some of the water, so adding their weight to the total is kind of stupid. But then again, so is the whole concept, so...
 

mizzou

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my 1500 can barely handle a 1/2 yard of dirt. Dump that in, you really see the suspension drop. A full yard is doable but a little dangerous IMO. I don't think the brakes would work well in a pinch ;)

Regular pickup beds are surprisingly weak and fragile.
 

Jimzz

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my 1500 can barely handle a 1/2 yard of dirt. Dump that in, you really see the suspension drop. A full yard is doable but a little dangerous IMO. I don't think the brakes would work well in a pinch ;)

Regular pickup beds are surprisingly weak and fragile.

Trucks are made to tow on a trailer setup for that weight. To set a truck up to handle that weight in the bed it would ride like a rock. My Dakota, V8, can't handle much in the bed either, esp with the hack exhaust work on it. My Titan was much better.

Truck makers have to balance the payload ability with the ride to get to a happy middle.
 

mizzou

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Trucks are made to tow on a trailer setup for that weight. To set a truck up to handle that weight in the bed it would ride like a rock. My Dakota, V8, can't handle much in the bed either, esp with the hack exhaust work on it. My Titan was much better.

Truck makers have to balance the payload ability with the ride to get to a happy middle.

Yeah I think it totally makes sense... people sometimes just expect you to be able to load that bed as high as you can because it's a "truck"

Like a horse, they are much more efficient at pulling heavy weight vs. loading it on their backs :)
 

slag

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Taken from the article...
"Well your teacher was right as it’s far heavier than the loads of steal, wood and concrete pickup trucks normally carry."

steal..

steal...

/shakes head
 

BoomerD

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Is it just me...or should the author of that piece have paid a bit more attention to HIS teacher?

Well your teacher was right as it’s far heavier than the loads of steal, wood and concrete pickup trucks normally carry.

If you are stealing enough to break your truck...you need a bigger truck. :p

/spelling nazi


Dammit, slag.
 

Tommy2000GT

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Speaking of redneck suspensions.

Coil spring wedge between bumpstop and leaf spring for lift.

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LTC8K6

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For this same reason most landlords do not allow waterbeds. Mostly for the leaking potential but that volume of water that would fill a typical waterbed is incredibly heavy and could exceed the weight-bearing capacity of some structures.

I saw them make a waterbed mattress on How It's Made.

It was full of some type of fiber material, and had far less water in it than you'd think.
 

slag

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Is it just me...or should the author of that piece have paid a bit more attention to HIS teacher?



If you are stealing enough to break your truck...you need a bigger truck. :p

/spelling nazi


Dammit, slag.

jinx? :) You owe me a coke!
 

Jimzz

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Speaking of redneck suspensions.

Coil spring wedge between bumpstop and leaf spring for lift.

liveiCx31B.jpg


Sad thing is this will add little to no extra ability for payload. The axles have to handle the weight, not just the springs. So extra springs/helpers can help control your load but it will not really allow you to carry more safely.
 

NoTine42

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Sad thing is this will add little to no extra ability for payload. The axles have to handle the weight, not just the springs. So extra springs/helpers can help control your load but it will not really allow you to carry more safely.

That's what happens when pickup makers only advertise Power = Towing

Really its Brakes, Transmission/Axle, Frame = Towing capacity. Mord power just makes it more fun to drive (so you don't have a huge line of traffic behind you)
 

natto fire

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Taken from the article...
"Well your teacher was right as it’s far heavier than the loads of steal, wood and concrete pickup trucks normally carry."

steal..

steal...

/shakes head

Yeah, this took 10 posts in to get to? I'm guessing most didn't read the article. Also, who the hell loads their truck up with asphalt? (To the asphalt vs. concrete crowd: even though that is not in the post I quoted, it is in the article...)

Also, if they are just going by manufacturer recommended payloads as "suspension destroying" then I gotta laugh out loud to that. I suppose I am a redneck, but where I grew up it was not uncommon to bow your leaf springs "real quick" to get a load of stone or soil home.

The only two parts you might damage in the shackle and spring, are not exactly expensive in most trucks. Considering the quality of this article, the author probably thinks carrying excessive loads will destroy your shocks and every bushing, but shocks do not carry loads, and assuming the driver goes carefully over bumps, there is nothing wrong with this practice.

Payload is not just what the suspension can hold, but what the engine/trans are capable of propelling, and what the brakes are capable of stopping.
 

Ruptga

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So the moral of the story is: convert a trailer instead. Besides, if the bed is full of water where do I put all my booze?
 

Jeff7

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Taken from the article...
"Well your teacher was right as it’s far heavier than the loads of steal, wood and concrete pickup trucks normally carry."

steal..

steal...

/shakes head
I was focused on this:


Remember when your 7th grade science teacher taught you that water is heaver than most metals?
Oh, right. Boats made of steel must sink because of all the oil they're carrying. And that makes sense because badgers chewed out the back of my head.


Water just happens to pack very efficiently.


The quoted (and misspellede) section is the caveat that I can believe: A truck bed full of water is heavier than the normal loads that trucks will carry. I doubt your truckbed would ever be filled with steel powder.

Or fill it with sand and see which it would rather haul.




Put the truck on heavy-duty jackstands, then fill it with water?
Or just buy a damn inflatable pool. It'll be cheaper than fixing the truck. :D
 

Sluggo

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Payload is not just what the suspension can hold, but what the engine/trans are capable of propelling, and what the brakes are capable of stopping.

It also fails to address that the manufacturer ratings assume that once the load is in the pick-up someone might want to drive it somewhere. Huge difference between a live load in a moving vehicle, and a static load.
 

mikeford

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For this same reason most landlords do not allow waterbeds. Mostly for the leaking potential but that volume of water that would fill a typical waterbed is incredibly heavy and could exceed the weight-bearing capacity of some structures.

Old style full motion waterbeds are heavy, but they don't weigh as much as building codes require a floor to bear, which is usually something like wall to wall people weighing maybe two to three times what a waterbed weighs.
 

Humpy

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You guys can go ahead and continue with whatever it is you are going on about.

I'm going to pick up a few 30 packs and load my truck pool with some womenz. :)
 

alkemyst

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You guys can go ahead and continue with whatever it is you are going on about.

I'm going to pick up a few 30 packs and load my truck pool with some womenz. :)

/this is the answer.

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