Preyhunter
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
"That simply isn't the case... I was driving a rental car in a strange city... it was a simple error... one you and your like could make just as easily. "
Okay. I'm still waiting. Around here the light is green, then it turns yellow to warn you that it's about to turn red, giving you plenty of time to either stop before the intersection, or make it through the intersection. My 16 year old with a learner's permit has figured the timing out and knows when to stop vs. when he has time to get through. But, that's around here.
Tell me about this strange city. Do they use different colors to trick you? Does it go Green... Aquamarine... Red? Or, perhaps they go through the whole ROYGBIV before getting to red? Green... Blue (and you're driving along wondering wtf?)... Purple? Orange??! RED! "AAAHHHH! I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO TO YELLOW BEFORE RED! THEY TRICKED ME!" Yeah, strange city.
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What if they said that jaywalking carried a $50,000 fine?
I wouldn't jaywalk.
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
You're a real "inside the box" thinker, aren't you? Not much of a thought process going on I gather.
In that example, did you even get a passing thought that maybe the fine was disproportionate to the crime?
Let me ask you another question: What if the government said that for your safety, your freedom of speech will be taken away? Would you resist?
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What if they said that jaywalking carried a $50,000 fine?
I wouldn't jaywalk.
You're a real "inside the box" thinker, aren't you? Not much of a thought process going on I gather.
In that example, did you even get a passing thought that maybe the fine was disproportionate to the crime?
Let me ask you another question: What if the government said that for your safety, your freedom of speech will be taken away? Would you resist, or would you comply like a brainless fool?
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Like it or not, you ADMITTED that you ran the red light, so even if the fine were $1000., you're guilty...so pay up...
You're claiming that his admission of guilt necessarily justifies the cost of the ticket.
What if the ticket was $7 million? At what point do people think to themselves that the fine must be proportionate to the offense?
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What if they said that jaywalking carried a $50,000 fine?
I wouldn't jaywalk.
You're a real "inside the box" thinker, aren't you? Not much of a thought process going on I gather.
In that example, did you even get a passing thought that maybe the fine was disproportionate to the crime?
Let me ask you another question: What if the government said that for your safety, your freedom of speech will be taken away? Would you resist, or would you comply like a brainless fool?
Originally posted by: DrPizza
wtf did you want him to say, oh mighty outside the box thinker? .
Originally posted by: BoomerD
If you don't break the law, what does it matter HOW MUCH the fine is? Don't like paying high fines? Don't break the laws...
So you ask about the fine, specifically asking if Anubis thinks it's reasonable. Everyone responds, pointing out the possible destruction that could be caused by your mistake, and you fly off the ****** handle at everyone, calling them fascists and idiots because they happen to feel that $361 is a fair fine for running a red light.Originally posted by: Doboji
You know it's funny... ATOT is so predictable.
I don't know why I let it get to me.
IMHO those of you who feel I "deserve" a $361 fine for this are idiot fascist pigs... and I hope you recieve nasty fines yourselves as soon as possible.
From this post forward I will no longer respond to your idiocy...
-Max
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
So you ask about the fine, specifically asking if Anubis thinks it's reasonable. Everyone responds, pointing out the possible destruction that could be caused by your mistake, and you fly off the ****** handle at everyone, calling them fascists and idiots because they happen to feel that $361 is a fair fine for running a red light.Originally posted by: Doboji
You know it's funny... ATOT is so predictable.
I don't know why I let it get to me.
IMHO those of you who feel I "deserve" a $361 fine for this are idiot fascist pigs... and I hope you recieve nasty fines yourselves as soon as possible.
From this post forward I will no longer respond to your idiocy...
-Max
Do I have that about right?
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
So you ask about the fine, specifically asking if Anubis thinks it's reasonable. Everyone responds, pointing out the possible destruction that could be caused by your mistake, and you fly off the ****** handle at everyone, calling them fascists and idiots because they happen to feel that $361 is a fair fine for running a red light.
Do I have that about right?
Originally posted by: Doboji
This is ATOT right?
So yes... you have that correct. I "flew" off the handle. I have however... since relaxing thanks to my lovely wife... been enjoying this thread.
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Doboji
This is ATOT right?
So yes... you have that correct. I "flew" off the handle. I have however... since relaxing thanks to my lovely wife... been enjoying this thread.
Dude, please tell me that you didn't just get it on while this argument has been taking place.![]()
It's a question of maturity. If you disagree with me at all, you deserve the maximum possible punishment. Not just you, but everyone you love and care about too...Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What bothers me are the people who lack the critical thinking skills to understand that guilt of an offense does not equal an unlimited punishment. They think, "hey, if you don't like the fine, don't do the crime". They're simply less intelligent people which have a voice but not an understanding of the subject.
Well, grab some Gatorade and get back in there. The argument isn't over.Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: 91TTZtell me that you didn't just get it on while this argument has been taking place.![]()
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Sorry, but if it's important enough to get there quickly, sirens should be on. Otherwise, they are endangering others by breaking the limits and rules by not signaling other drivers of their intentions. Flipping their lights on only to get through a light or speeding 90 in the fast lane without sirens is reckless.Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Umm..it's called priority calls buddy. What if the burglar alarm in your house is going off? Do you want cops to just loaf around and get there when they can, or do you want them to hurry up and get there?Originally posted by: blurredvision
EDIT: I also wanted to add that until cops themselves quit speeding, running lights, and doing whatever they please, then it's every citizen's right to bitch about ticket costs. Cops never get tickets for going 20 over on the interstate (which is ALL the time), or turning their sirens on to get through red lights (couldn't count how many times I've seen this)..
Idiots like you are the real downside of being a police officer.
Originally posted by: miri
Im glad there are no red light cameras in Newport Beach or neighboring Irvine. Its sorta funny that they dont have red light cameras in 2 of the most expensive cities in California.
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Anubis
pay the ticket and dont run red lights
pretty simple
What if they said that the ticket is $2,000?
Would your answer be the same? Surely there must be some kind of justification for the price (other than revenue generation).
Just because you do something wrong doesn't give the state a blank check to do whatever they want to you.
I see a lot of posters on here using the faulty logic of "you did something wrong, therefore the ticket amount is justified". Nobody is saying that he didn't break a law, the contention is that the cost is unreasonable.
Originally posted by: Imported
Originally posted by: miri
Im glad there are no red light cameras in Newport Beach or neighboring Irvine. Its sorta funny that they dont have red light cameras in 2 of the most expensive cities in California.
I miss Newport and Irvine. Unless you were by UCI, the cops didn't bother much. Wide and fast streets everywhere.
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
You suck at driving and you got owned by a camera. Deal with it
